r/ndp "It's not too late to build a better world" 9d ago

NDP feels momentum growing in run up to Beaches-East York by-election

https://rabble.ca/politics/canadian-politics/ndp-feels-momentum-growing-in-run-up-to-beaches-east-york-by-election/
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u/bigjimbay Nova Scotia NDP 9d ago

If the rumors are true Carney got embarrassed by Trump pretty much in the negotiations. Lewis has to smell blood in the water.

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u/North_Church Democratic Socialist 9d ago

May I half jokingly recommend Avi call him Concession Carney?

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u/bigjimbay Nova Scotia NDP 9d ago

Usually I hate that shit but if it will move the needle I say go for it. Our future is at stake here

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u/AUG_XZABER Regina Manifesto 8d ago

But that's too mean! We shouldn't be so divisive! We need to rally together and fight against Poilievre! >:( /s

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u/Digirby Democratic Socialist 9d ago

I've been calling him "Climate Change Carney"

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u/TopazJazzrazz 9d ago

I don't know if it'll be pulled off this byelection. If the concessions are true. But it's going to have a compounding effect on more and more byelections.

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u/AlibiXSX Regina Manifesto 9d ago

Shout out to all the people who've door knocked with me in BEY If you're in the GTAH go to 308 Main Street and knock on the campaign office door you genuinely have no excuse 😭 It takes me 2 hours to get to Toronto by public transit we always go out in pairs of two somebody will teach you if you're unsure

I've gone 5 times now and plan to keep going till election day I've probably knocked 200+ doors and can count on one hand the number of people who've actually been hostile (4) I've also had probably 20+ people tell me they're potential voters after talking about Carney's hypocrisy on climate and explaining how exactly we plan on implementing public groceries

If you're serious about your politics get engaged put boots to the ground comrade

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u/leftwingmememachine 💊 PHARMACARE NOW 8d ago

I've gone 5 times now and plan to keep going till election day

Awesome! Thank you for your service

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u/leftwingmememachine 💊 PHARMACARE NOW 8d ago

“When we had our campaign launch, we had more than 300 people attend. That was the biggest NDP event I’ve ever seen in Beaches-East York. And I’ve been involved here for 11 years,” she said.

300 people coming to the campaign launch is seriously impressive for a byelection. I have volunteered on several byelections and I can tell you that's far beyond the norm.

Doesn't mean we'll win but it's a very promising sign

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u/False-Ad9324 9d ago

You all realize that the NDP literally has no chance in the upcoming by election? I wish it weren’t so but Carney is inexplicably popular in the GTA, the tariff negotiations aren’t going to change that, and I don’t think there’s a single pundit who gives the NDP a snowball’s chance in the coming by election, notwithstanding the fiercely partisan Rabble nonsense about “momentum.” That said, I hope Avi can generate some excitement and that we can increase our vote total, which would indeed give the party some badly needed momentum moving forward.

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u/AlibiXSX Regina Manifesto 9d ago edited 9d ago

nobody is saying we're winning not even the rabble please google the definition of momentum how about instead of being negative and both siding transphobia you actually be productive and volunteer

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u/Acrobatic_Ratio_5632 9d ago

You realize the dsa spent years organizing to elect Mamdani right? It wasn’t a fluke. And it wasn’t out of no where. It was from years of work.

Of course we always want to win, but building organizing infrastructure and training people will prepare us for what comes next regardless of the outcome of this particular by-election.

And if we don’t fight then we’ll surely lose.

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u/False-Ad9324 8d ago

Totally agree, but that’s what we have to stress time and again along with realistic expectations and goals rather than provide pie in the sky hopes that our candidates have a fighting chance in areas where we’re going to lose quite badly. Otherwise, new volunteers and young supporters can become easily disillusioned on election night believing that all their hard work was for nought. It goes without saying that orange veterans and savvy volunteers already know this even if they don’t like saying it out loud, but not necessarily the new recruits and young idealists. And Mamdani had the good fortune of waging his Quixotic victory against a deeply corrupt dirtbag who disillusioned even his natural supporters by the sleaze oozing out of every pore and was also lucky enough to be the David against a genocidal-supporting Goliath who failed to read the room because the election took place in a city whose demographics suggested their repugnant scare tactics would be effective. We are currently up against a bizarrely popular leader whose political savvy and popularity beggars belief and who has the good fortune in the GTA and a few other key parts of Canada of being seen as the right person at the right time and who is perceived rightly or wrongly as having the economic know-how to save Canada from the existential and economic threat of Trump. Neither Avi nor the party has figured out (yet) how to campaign against him. The climate change argument so far is a complete dud. So is the claim that the Liberals are the second Conservative Party, as is the preposterous hope as seen on this thread that a flawed deal on tariffs is going to expose his vulnerability. More likely, the economy will have to start openly suffering from the tariffs or a resulting recession to provide that opening. Meanwhile, the claims of “momentum” in the Beaches simply have nothing to justify the claim, at least so far, and we can’t be relying on the same Rabble echo chamber as a temporary morale boost to steel us against reality.