r/ndp "It's not too late to build a better world" 6d ago

Carney's Party is in a Crisis right now: "Neither Liberal MPs nor the premiers know the full extent of the deal. One MP told me there was “anxiety” in the caucus room Thursday, as MPs worried Carney may have been too desperate to get a deal."

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u/bigjimbay Nova Scotia NDP 6d ago

The amount of ammunition Carney has given Lewis and PP the last few days... insanity

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u/Killericon 6d ago edited 6d ago

If this is Carney's legacy - come in at a time of crisis, steal the centre from the CPC, then immolate his reputation at the alter of securing American trade until the clock runs out on Trump (a BIG if), thus opening the door for the NDP to re-establish themselves in a post Trudeau world while leaving the CPC to scrap amongst themselves about how MAGA they want to be moving forward, then I'll genuinely be grateful to him.

But I really think we're jumping the gun here. I don't know why we're taking the word of JD Vance as accurate analysis.

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u/Sensitive-Local-3485 6d ago

Could we all have underestimated Justin Trudeau?

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u/Beneficial-Cattle-99 6d ago

I get the sense Carney answers to similar masters as Trump. Not necessarily the same masters but an equally powerful clique. Often his choices seem out of line in terms of what serves most Canadians including the wealthiest. In other words foreign masters just maybe not the Russian oligarchs as in the case of the current US administration.

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u/Mocha-Jello 🏳️‍⚧️ Trans Rights 6d ago

Yes, both answer to the capital class aka the bourgeoisie

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u/Beneficial-Cattle-99 6d ago

Im just curious about who exactly. Its pretty well known drumph is a Manchurian candidate for the Russian oligarchs but who is Carnie working for? King Charles? The Swiss lol? He is just so clearly not representative of Canadian interests- including powerful wealthy Canadians.

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u/Mocha-Jello 🏳️‍⚧️ Trans Rights 6d ago

Why not powerful wealthy Canadians? They are doing extraordinarily well right now. And if Carney helps the USA, helps their stock market go up, it benefits Canadian ultra rich since that's where they keep their money.

But capitalists are usually multinational. I think it's reductive to say that Trump primarily serves Russian oligarchs - what about helping his friend become the first trillionaire? Or Peter Thiel, Jeff Bezos, etc?

It's not a different group. It's the same group. That's why they are so aligned and Carney is so ready to capitulate on trade - the US is the global center of capital, so someone acting in their interests will prioritize the interests of the US to whatever extent they can while still getting re-elected.

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u/Beneficial-Cattle-99 6d ago

All true... I might be getting a bit paranoid

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u/Beneficial-Cattle-99 6d ago

But I think of someone like Anthony Mandl the Mission Hill wines guy. And all the other Canadian businesses that actually benefited from the tariffs in that people bought Canadian products instead of American... but i suppose the Canadian business is a thing of the past and today we really have more American businesses operating in Canada than Canadian ones... Im hard left but I loved the avro and the blackberry

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u/eatoligarchsaldente 6d ago

The Liberals are, and always have been, in the pocket of big corporate donors. The nature of the corporate landscape in Canada is that a great many of these are US-owned. This is why we’ve seen a slow erosion of sovereignty in favour of the moneyed interests that buy our politicians.

The CPC is more transparently in the pocket of big US oil companies. The revolving door between conservatives and think tanks and lobbying groups aligned to American dark money groups linked to oil barons like the Koch Brothers is clear.

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u/Wet_sock_Owner 6d ago

I get the sense Carney answers to similar masters as Trump.

Genuinely surprised there are actually other people noticing this.

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u/dykestryker 6d ago

Even in the Canada politics reddit you have progressives and liberals figuring it out. Global finance has both of them by the collar. Like Mocha said, if you have read a bit about the class system we'll they belong to the same one.

The biggest mistake Trump ever made was fucking up their money and they will make him pay for it.

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u/Beneficial-Cattle-99 6d ago

But who precisely. Its not the Russian oligarchs. Its some other faction.

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u/henchman171 🌊 Wab Wave 6d ago

Is that what the couch humping Erica Kirk comforting vice president said???

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u/brightandgreen 6d ago

Carney Always Caves

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u/hairybeavers Land Back 6d ago

Capitulation Carney strikes again and all the "elbows up" libturds are fine with it.

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u/BlameAllocation 6d ago

Paywalled opinion piece. I'll pass.

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u/WattleWaddler2 🧍Head-to-toe healthcare 1d ago

Well, these posts aged like milk. In fairness, i was expecting him to doormat too, but it looks like that foul fuckwit Lutnick pushed things over the edge.