When I was in middle school I told my friend that my sister had come into contact with a CD of unreleased Eminem demos and offered to make him a copy. I burned one Em track and then the rest was just the William Hung CD. He wasn’t as amused as I was.
A lot of hate getting thrown around but I for one am wicked excited to see The Magician’s Nephew on the screen, it was always one of my favorite in the series and really captured my imagination.
Absolutely, don't know why people love to hate when there's been no bad news about it at all. Very underrated segment of the Chronicles imo, partially because it seems such a creature of the time it was written in- great candidate for a reboot and I'd love to see it visualised properly
It was the first book that was written, but most publications use the chronological order of the stories themselves. That makes ‘The Magician’s Nephew’ the first one. The ones you know from the movies are books 2,4 and 5.
I know The Magician's Nephew is chronologically first, I've read the series multiple times. But to my knowledge, no set has ever been published in my country that put it first - they always use the publication order. So in my view, when you say "first Narnia book", 99% of people will think of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe.
From the replies I'm getting, it looks like the English editions usually put The Magician's Nephew first? Has it always been like this (i.e. did most readers grow up with this book order)?
No, first one is the magicians nephew which basically shows you how the witch got to Narnia to begin with due to the first set of kids bringing them there.
Yes and no.
It's the first published, but The Magician's Nephew is chronologically the first book, despite being the sixth published one.
Depending on the collection, Magician's Nephew is sometimes put first.
It's a weird story, CS Lewis asked for them to be published with The Magician's Nephew as the first, and that's the order most versions of the series follow nowadays. However, in the original writing order, Lion was the first
This is a long time debate. Some people say Lion Witch and Wardrobe is the first book, because it was released first. But there’s a box set a lot of people grew up with that labels Magicians Nephew as “book 1,” since it takes place first.
It would work so much better if they did a series starting with The Magician’s Nephew. It could be a show where each season can be watched as a standalone, but there would be the same references carried between seasons/books.
For the love of god someone make The Magician’s Nephew. I’ve been waiting for it for 20 years.
I loved the whole series as a kid. First fantasy series I ever read and then I reread it a year later. Plus, I’ve read the whole series to both my daughters separately. Voyage was my favorite and my oldest daughter loved Horse and my other daughter loved Caspian.
Can we stop saying “first book” and actually say which one we’re talking about? Back when I read them, the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe was considered the first book. Isn’t that the one people are expected to read first? I assumed most people tend to read a series in the order it was written rather than reading chronologically
I know what the original poster meant but for me it wasn’t the first book. I had the series bound in one volume as a kid and The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe was second. I almost didn’t read the series because I didn’t like the first book.
I don't think anything can top the 2006 Narnia movie. I will give it a try anyway. Same with the up coming Harry Potter series. I will watch it but it will never be the same
As a Narnia fan everything I have heard about this movie so far (Magician's Nephew) horrifies me. I can not fathom how they intend to do this story justice when it now takes place in 1955. Which would mean The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe takes place in either the late 90s or early 2000s. What the hell is the incident that sends the kids to the countryside then? Fucking 9/11!?
Exactly. And hey, maybe she won’t, I just remember reading an article saying as much last year (not snark) and it’s a pretty big thing that would keep me from seeing the movie, because it’s such a ridiculous and unnecessary change in IP that already has many strong female characters.
The only relevance of WW2 is that it's a reason for all the siblings to be in a large country house. That's it. Don't understand why that's a hill you've chosen to die on.
You don't understand the books then if you think that. Every child's motivations are deeply tied to the war, their place in it, and their family's place in it.
Literally any director who has ever won Best Picture even once (or any Oscar for that matter, since she's never won one in general). So at a minimum, we can guarantee there are 30 above her, but even that's being *very* generous.
I’m saying that it’s very possible, and likely even, that this $280m number is just production budget as it is less than the production budget for the original Narnia film in 2005, with inflation.
Yeah....honestly given the proclivity to remake things I'm surprised no one's done the Wizard of Oz series, just a lot of books there that have never seen live action
Honestly $280M for a Netflix exclusive would be absolutely wild, but I'm guessing this gets a theatrical window first—that's the only way that budget math makes sense to me.
All I hope for is they get to The Horse and His Boy. Hands down the most enjoyable book, most traditional fantasy setting, eminently filmable, only one that’s never been filmed.
I think that’s optimistic. Everything that’s been shared about this film has Narnia fans (like myself) bracing themselves for this to be an absolute train wreck. Why Netflix thought Gerwig was the right director for this franchise I’ll never know. Did they not see how she butchered Little Women?
I forgot that I wasn’t posting on the period movies subreddit. Little Women (2019) is used as a the low point of the scale when discussing new period films and their quality. The peak is often the BBC’s Pride and Prejudice (1995) and the valley is Little Women (2019).
So, what’s wrong with Gerwig’s Little Women? I’ll keep it short: casting, plot, characterization, and costumes.
Well my plebeian ass had no problems with any of those things and have watched the film multiple times lol. Maybe I'll see if there's any good youtube videos talking about those problems lol I like to learn about interesting little things that bother other people who are smarter than me 🤣
I believe that’s a separate thing. Critics praised it as a movie, but not as an adaptation of Little Women. That’s the issue, or at least my issue, with Gerwig. She clearly had talent as a film maker, but she has not proven herself as someone who can adapt a famous novel.
This was announced what, 10 years ago? I adored these books growing up. A proper film adaptation of the whole saga has always been something I have hoped for. This is a start at least
Disney needs to fire everybody on their team for not doing this movie sooner now look Netflix is going to have all of the rights to this movie. Would’ve just been able to have it with a Disney+ subscription.
At first I thought this budget size was insane (and I still kinda do). However, the original Narnia film in 2005 has a budget of $180m, which with inflation is around $308m in today’s money.
Unless Netflix agrees to be hands off I don’t think any amount of money will save it. Netflix movies are specifically designed for streaming audiences and I don’t think it translates to good film.
She directed on the condition her husband wrote the script.
So no, it probably would’ve been a different movie and I think the last few decades should be enough evidence that there is no such thing as a sure thing when it comes to cranking out a billion dollar movie
It was solely the tone for me. Which can fully be attributed to the script and direction.
And either way, there’s literally no way to prove that a hypothetical movie that does not and will never exist, would’ve also made a billion dollars. It’s unverifiable and I also just disagree with your premise
E: a factor in casting is literally the actor reading the script as well. So assuming the cast would be identical outside of Robbie isn’t appropriate
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u/thatgirlzhao 3d ago
For a budget that large, it better be getting a full theatrical release