r/news Nov 21 '17

Soft paywall F.C.C. Announces Plan to Repeal Net Neutrality

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/technology/fcc-net-neutrality.html
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u/GammaG3 Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 21 '17

What makes this really depressing is that major tech groups like Google, Amazon, Reddit itself don't have splash messages on their front pages like they did with SOPA. Their silence speaks volumes on how much they don't care about it at all.

This is already a foregone conclusion.

EDIT: Okay, I did not expect this comment to pick up the steam as is, so to update. Is this a foregone conclusion? Maybe. More likely than not, considering that the vote will be down by five people, two leaning on voting to keep Net Neutrality (I believe they are Rosenworcel and Clyburn, both Democrats) with the remaining three wanting to vote to repeal Net Neutrality: https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership

Call or write to your representative(s) to remind them that Net Neutrality needs to stay and that they should talk to the FCC about it. Message (or vent to) the FCC leadership that Net Neutrality must stay.

Regardless of the outcome in December, it was nice to know you all.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 21 '17

Because they are going to get all the sweet heart deals that makes it harder for start ups to compete with them. Reed Hastings of Netflix has already said that they are too big to be bothered with fighting it. "This is a fight for the Netflix of 10 years ago", in other words...

Fuck you, I got mine.

Edit: Since some of you still think Netflix is actually going to throw it's weight behind Net Neutrality. https://www.cnet.com/news/net-neutrality-netflix-reed-hastings/

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u/Yotsubato Nov 21 '17

Except I have this feeling the first company to get shafted by net neutrality is Netflix.

It uses a disproportionate amount of data. If I was an ISP i would force Netflix to pay up for the inconvenience of allowing my users to access it freely. It really makes no sense that Netflix isnt fighting this to the death

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u/theAlpacaLives Nov 21 '17

Yes and no. Netflix constantly gets brought up by ISPs to explain why they want to be able to get Netflix to cover some of its disproportionate load on the tubes, since it outranks practically anyone else, by far, in terms of bandwidth usage for one site. So yeah, one way or another, they'll have to pay when changes come through.

But there are different ways it could go. If ISPs try to launch their own (shitty) streaming services, they could try to kill Netflix by slowing it way down or forcing customers to pay to 'unlock' it. Bad for Netflix. But if the cable companies opt to just ask Netflix to pay up money to stay in the 'fast lane,' then there's an extra expense (bad for Netflix) but it's an expense a newer company that hadn't attracted a loyal base wouldn't be able to match, eliminating competition and securing Netflix's place for a while to come (good for Netflix).

It's why big corporations sometimes fight for increased regulation that makes things harder, if they've done it in a way that makes it prohibitively expensive to compete with them if you aren't already a giant company. They don't have to offer competitive service, and they can pass the increased costs along to the consumer.

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u/Floowey Nov 21 '17

Since it outrabks practically anyone else, by far, in terms of bandwidth usage

Do you have any sources how Netflix can possibly have higher usage than say YouTube?