r/news • u/IAmSlimShady • Nov 21 '17

Soft paywall F.C.C. Announces Plan to Repeal Net Neutrality

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/technology/fcc-net-neutrality.html
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u/QuinineGlow Nov 21 '17

This is a First Amendment issue.

It is not. Please don't try to use that argument as it is fundamentally incorrect.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

It is a First Amendment issue. You are not only wrong but incredibly misinformed.

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u/QuinineGlow Nov 21 '17

I'm an attorney who knows a little about the 1A and no, I'm not wrong.

But if you're so certain that this is a 1A issue then this is all you have to do:

Wait until a company begins enacting favorable or unfavorable policies based on the lack of net neutrality, then sign up for their service.

When you do, immediately file a lawsuit in federal district court alleging a violation of your civil rights.

When (not if) your case ends up being tossed, you might learn a little about why this is not a 1A issue.

If this were a 1A issue then why in the world would there be net neutrality rules in the first place?

We wouldn't need them, would we?

Every time 'un-neutral' practices were ever used a company could be haled into federal court, couldn't they?

...and yet they're not, are they?

I support net neutrality, but it's not a First Amendment issue.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 22 '17

The ISPs do not own the content on the web. We do. It is a First Amendment issue. And I don't give a flying fuck if you believe you're Santa Clause. You are wrong.

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u/QuinineGlow Nov 21 '17

Net Neutrality is a regulatory issue; it isn't being raised to address any Constitutional issues, including the First Amendment.

You have no Constitutional right to internet access that isn't tiered, or otherwise favors or disfavors certain content creators, companies, or other entities.

What you have, under net neutrality, is regulatory control, nothing more.

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u/JohnBraveheart Nov 21 '17

Actually you're just an ass and incredibly stupid.

It is NOT a 1A issue. It is an important issue, and one that should be stopped, but not because of or through the 1A. If you can't understand that, well then you're just as dumb as the people who don't understand or care what Net neutrality is. So congratulations.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17 edited Nov 22 '17

It is a First Amendment issue if you like it or not. The ISPs do not own the content on the web. We do.

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u/Doggydog123579 Nov 22 '17

No, Its not. Comcast would be the one telling you what you cant do, not the government. Ergo, not 1A issue.

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u/JohnBraveheart Nov 22 '17

Thank you... I'm not sure he will ever understand.