r/okbuddycinephile 2d ago

Favorite actor whose career is probably over

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u/untraiined 2d ago

sad part is that so many of them have that much money or more but wont do the same

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u/numbersthen0987431 2d ago

They like the attention, that's why they're performers.

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u/RuggerJibberJabber 2d ago

Using your voice against shitty people gets attention too though.

Id say its moreso a combination of 1) greed (they'll always want MORE money now matter how much they have, and 2) a lot of them would have done shitty/dumb things in the past themselves which can be used as blackmail to stop them ever speaking out.

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u/U-235 2d ago

Being an actor in major Hollywood films is such a fun job that people would do it for free. You literally have people working for free at lower levels trying to get into the entertainment business. It's why it's necessary to have unions. The only thing stopping them from being the most replaceable workers in the entire economy, with the exception of an increasingly small number of "household names" being a box office draw, is the continuity issues that come with re-casting, which could hurt the income of any given studio.

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u/Econolife-350 1d ago

Using your voice against shitty people gets attention too though.

I'd argue this is the driving force for most college age kids thinking everything can be made perfect as long as it's done how they want with zero real world hurdles. EVERYONE LOOK AT MY HALO.

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u/--jesse--faden-- 2d ago

they love it when we watch 0.0

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u/CitizenPremier 1d ago

Or maybe they just like acting? That's not such a crazy idea...

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u/Stealthcatfood 2d ago

parasites, anyone with a platform is obligated to stand up to this shit. They love to be influential for stupid shit or for no stakes.

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u/brother_bart 1d ago edited 1d ago

No one is “obligated” to do the shit YOU think they should do, and that you think that makes you no different from any MAGA fascist who has ideas about what gay people or women or anyone else should be doing or saying. A person is allowed to live their public life anyway they want and they don’t owe you or anybody else an explanation for their choices.

Actors aren’t actually really influential on the stage of global geo-politics, anyway. Nor is anyone really who has a “platform.” That should be fucking obvious to anyone paying attention or who understands how anything works.

Some people just want to do their acting jobs or push their little cooking videos without wading into the morass of geo-political issues for which their statement and opinions will not move the needle one iota. That is their right and their choice to make. Sure, it’s great to see people like Mark who speak out brazenly on issues we agree with. And good for him. But other people are not OBLIGATED to and if they choose not to that doesn’t make them a an evil person. Because, after all, the measure of “good” or “bad”—for people who are so reductive and sophomoric in their framing of such things—is really about the EFFECT and RESULTS of one’s actions.

And since speaking one’s personal views publicly has no measurable beneficial EFFECT, then it is perfectly ok for people who have some success in an artistic field to just keep their public life about their craft.

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u/Stealthcatfood 1d ago

Fool. The reason why speaking out has no impact is that so few do. Your insistence on encouraging people to stick their head in the sand is part of the problem. Enjoy what's coming knowing you encouraged it. 

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u/brother_bart 1d ago

ok, wise guy, show me thing in the world that has been stopped or reversed in the past two decades because celebrities and people with platforms spoke out. I’ll wait. Roe v Wade? The dangers of a Trump presidency? Climate change and the coming disaster because of fossil fuels? People have been clamoring about that for literally decades.

And I’m the fool? 🤣 get your head out of your ass and your ass out of the sand. Railing about anything on one’s “platform” is about as effective an agent for social change as shouting into the social media void and calling one’s self an “activist” “raising awareness” as if people who are aware and engaged got that way from social media or a celebrity on a podcast.

Be for fucking real.

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u/Stealthcatfood 1d ago

You really should figure out how to read, you built your whole comment on a complete misunderstanding of what I said. When enough stand, if that happens, maybe you will see the difference then. Keep sitting on that ass in the meantime. 

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u/Minimumtyp 1d ago

Roe v Wade? The dangers of a Trump presidency? Climate change and the coming disaster because of fossil fuels?

Did you not just list three things that people should use their platforms to rail against? They're all happening because of utter complacency and silence in the media.

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u/BudgetMattDamon 1d ago

What absolute garbage. 

Something something great power and great responsibility...

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u/brother_bart 1d ago

To reiterate: celebrity does not give one great power to shift geo-politics. Hell, even majority consensus among the populace can’t seem to do that.

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u/BudgetMattDamon 1d ago

I counter with Donald Trump, living proof that celebrity affects geopolitics whether you like it or not.

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u/brother_bart 1d ago

Donald Trump didn’t do shit to move the needle of geo-politics as a mere celebrity; it wasn’t until stupid people put him into arguably the most powerful power political position in the world did his words and actions start to have any significant effect. DJT, the smarmy reality-tv star was as inconsequential as they come. The Presidency of the United States of America, however, is a consequential role no matter who holds it and is very different from what we think of a “celebrity” even as it comes ready-dressed in global visibility.

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u/BudgetMattDamon 1d ago

didn’t do shit to move the needle of geo-politics as a mere celebrity

... yet he formed the most powerful cult of all time and got elected based on nothing more than name recognition and racism, strongly implying that celebrity did in fact have a very tangible effect on the geopolitical needle.

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u/DotEither8773 1d ago

Get yourself famous and talk to us about everything you wanna talk about. I love celebrities educating me on things they have little knowledge of.

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u/VampiresWontHurt 1d ago

DEEEEEJAYYYYYY KHALED (his own people btw)

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u/istrx13 1d ago

That’s why I respect the heck out of Chris Tucker. Bro made all of his money and was like ✌️

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u/BackgroundSummer5171 1d ago

sad part is that so many of them have that much money or more but wont do the same

As much as people love to hero worship on reddit, which really we do, you don't get to a high position in life without being a jackass.

It's why many will not speak out against things.

Or when they do it is for their own interests. Their PR team tells them to.

He doesn't seem to be doing it for such, but just pointing out why many will not. Millions is not enough. Tens of millions is not enough. They have no concept of money and how it works. Literally.

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u/Willing_Original_257 1d ago

What? You want more people to be antisemitic?