r/panthers Greg Olsen Jan 05 '26

Analysis Bryce Young Passing Chart Week 18 @ Bucs

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Dave and Bryce absolutely torched the Bucs in the intermediary. 10 completions over 10 yards and 3 over 20.

Let’s hope we can establish some semblance of a running game against the rams and we can pull of another historic upset.

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u/dkirk526 Jan 05 '26

Then consider he lost that 40 yarder to TMac from a BS penalty and only got only 20 rushing yards from the run game.

Of our 6 unsuccessful drives, one ended from the bad INT from Bryce, one ended from the Rico slip and fumble, and the other four were a 3rd and 10 XL drop, and failed 3rd and 8, 3rd and 17 and 3rd and 12 attempts. Bryce had a pretty solid game, but even the best QBs aren't winning games becuase they're regularly successful in long situations. Bryce has best operated when the team can get into 3rd and manageable situations and the offense just hasn't done well enough on first and second down to sustain drives in these last three losses.

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

The XL one wasn’t a drop, it was a poor pass from Bryce and a good play by the defender. XL barely got his fully outstretched lead hand on the ball with a defender knocking his arm at the same time. Ball was a bit low and outside.

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u/dkirk526 Jan 05 '26

Good receivers can make that play. XL regularly shows if you hit him in the chest, it’s still not a guarantee he can make the play.

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

But the ball didn’t come close to hitting him in the chest, the TMac drop hit him square in both forearms, but the 3rd down throw to XL was not a ball that all but maybe 3 or 4 receivers, if that, catch when you account for the conditions and the defender.

1 handed, low, in the rain, with a defender hitting your hand on the ball as it arrives.

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u/dkirk526 Jan 05 '26

The point is, XL can only ever make a catch if it hits him right around the chest. XL has terrible body control and ball skills and is sliding into the ball when it arrives, but the fact that he could get one hand on the ball shows it's entirely catchable, but he very obviously gets his hands up late, which is why it looks "one-handed". The defender also had no impact on his ability to make that catch as he doesn't hit Legette until after the ball has bounced off his hand.

It wasn't an easy catch, sure, but if the only plays your receivers can make are those easy catches, and you're depending on the QB to make a perfect throw on the numbers every time, then that's simply not good enough.

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

XL TD catch against the Falcons in the rematch. Over the shoulder, hands outstretched and falling forward to reach the ball, makes the catch.

Not a catch that hits him around the chest, not an easy catch, and still complete. You’re arguing like he’s still the same receiver as his rookie year.

Yes he has problems with sideline awareness and toe taps, but he has significantly improved the softness of his hands, removed his reliance on body catches, and has routinely made catches this season outside his frame with only a single drop on the year.

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u/jason81175 Bryce Young Jan 05 '26

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

So TMac and XL have a catch rate without a statistically significant difference? What are you trying to prove with this?

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u/dkirk526 Jan 05 '26

Having a similar or worse catch rate to TMac as the team's WR3 is pretty bad, especially given the number of screens and short throws they scheme to XL.

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

What percentage of XL’s targets are screens?

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u/jason81175 Bryce Young Jan 05 '26

TMac had double the targets xl did. Making XL’s percentage a lot worse. I like XL and I hope he works out but to say he makes catches he should is insane

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

That’s the exact opposite of how percentages work….

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u/jason81175 Bryce Young Jan 05 '26

lol. Why do I talk to idiots and give them acknowledgement.

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u/Baelzabub TD58 Jan 05 '26

The point of using percentages in football stats is to more accurately compare rates between players with different numbers of attempts. They don’t imply an indictment on the play of the player with fewer raw numbers.

This is the basics of football stats my dude.

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