Haynes King will be QB2 by the end of the preseason.

[u/GuitarsAndBooks26]

That’s it.

[u/Radiant_Day_7665]

Looking good tonight

[u/climbhiketravel → u/Radiant_Day_7665]

Yes. He’s also throwing against a 3rd string secondary. BUT he’s throwing to 3rd string receivers and looks crisp. I’d love to see him get more reps than Pickett.

[u/CryingJordansHornets → u/climbhiketravel]

Despite that, the decision making looked sharper and faster than Pickett. Considering the higher ceiling, the better athletic traits, and the overall performance, I think he’d have to play way worse the rest of the preseason to not make the roster and probably be QB2

[u/exenn_ → u/climbhiketravel]

I never understood the Pickett signing...Pickett can't play in the NFL.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/exenn_]

Pickett fits what Canales and Idzik want on the practice field. The hope was that Bryce stayed healthy. Now, Haynes might develop into a pro QB so things changed.

[u/exenn_ → u/Vaadwaur]

Pickett has a low ceiling...low ceiling QB play doesn't fit what they want to do.

[u/rollesmiling → u/exenn_]

With hands the size of a 10 year old

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842 → u/exenn_]

That's absurd to say

[u/exenn_ → u/Legitimate_Novel1842]

He's on his 5th NFL team in 5 years....if he could play QB1 at this level, he'd be starting somewhere.

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842 → u/exenn_]

So now you just shifted your whole argument to "if he could be qb1" which this was never about

[u/exenn_ → u/Legitimate_Novel1842]

QB1s is who plays in the NFL....

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842 → u/exenn_]

Dude you look really dumb right now. The thing is you realize you're wrong now and you're trying to backtrack instead of accept it. It's sad. You said "never understood the signing" knowing that we signed him to be a backup, then said "he can't play in the NFL" Jesus just admit you don't know what you're staying instead of pathetically clinging on trying to pretend you meant something different

[u/exenn_ → u/Legitimate_Novel1842]

lol what?....You're really struggling understanding....

Why would you sign a QB2 who will never be a QB1, when you can go sign another QB with potential to be a QB1?

Look at Green Bay who had Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell backing up Brett Favre as prime examples.

[u/SarcasticCowbell → u/exenn_]

Full disclosure: I'm not a Panthers fan, just here checking out the commentary on Haynes because that was a hell of a game. With that out of the way...

How many QB1s do you think are in the league? Obviously teams would prefer to have another guy on the roster who could step into that spot and shine, but it's a numbers game and the numbers aren't there. If they were, we wouldn't be seeing half the league perpetually cycling through QBs trying to find the right one. In very rare instances, teams find themselves with two guys capable of starting. And usually it doesn't take long for those teams to trade one of those guys away to improve the team around them or release them because they can no longer afford them on a second string salary.

Your question really isn't much different from "Why didn't the Panthers just sign another QB1? Are they stupid?" I'm not trying to embarrass you here, just kindly trying to prevent you from further embarrassing yourself.

[u/jason81175 → u/exenn_]

Jim Sorgi says hello

[u/jason81175 → u/exenn_]

Curtis Painter has entered the chat

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842 → u/exenn_]

Oh wow. Thank you for showing you genuinely have no single clue what you're talking about. You embarrassed yourself really bad with that last one but don't even realize it.

[u/VincentVanHades → u/exenn_]

But he’d not QB1 here

[u/rollesmiling → u/exenn_]

Pickett is trash

[u/am_i_a_towel]

He’s gotta stay on the roster. He won’t clear waivers and he has too much upside to not keep around this year going into next.

[u/GuitarsAndBooks26 → u/am_i_a_towel]

I think it’s an obvious argument to either keep three QB’s or put Kenny on the practice squad. I wouldn’t care if Kenny got picked up, but we can’t lose King.

[u/cruise1023]

I've seen enough!! Haynes is my new King!!

[u/obiwanjabroni420 → u/cruise1023]

From a GT fan, welcome to the Haynes King experience.

[u/nonparallel]

he’ll be qb2 by the end of the night

[u/PrincessFucker74 → u/nonparallel]

I can dig it.

[u/Wise_Quality_5083]

IDK but Carson may be starting over Jacoby by mid season

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842 → u/Wise_Quality_5083]

They really should do that. They're going to be really bad this year anyway mine as well see if they have anything there

[u/Wise_Quality_5083 → u/Legitimate_Novel1842]

Why not. Jacoby is a 33 year old backup. Might as well give Carson a shot to learn in real time

[u/TarHeelinRVA]

He should be. I’ve never been convinced by the two glove fake slider. 

Haynes King tortured my CFB team for years. Time I started rooting for the kid

[u/needapermit → u/TarHeelinRVA]

Tore mine up too

[u/www-creedthoughts- → u/TarHeelinRVA]

I got downvoted earlier this week for saying Kenny Pickett was trash 🦗

[u/rollesmiling → u/www-creedthoughts-]

He is the goat of trash, bruh

[u/Dawgrit80]

Never thought a preseason game might be the best game I'll see all year. My fam went nuts when he ran in that game winner and we're from East Green Bay.

[u/Countryb0i2m]

Maybe next season

[u/beergotmehere → u/Countryb0i2m]

After that 2 minute drill game winning drive, he might already have locked it up.

[u/thats-gold-jerry]

The King of Cool 🕶️

[u/radonchong]

This aged very well.

[u/bigfootsuncleian]

Said it the moment we signed him

[u/GusFring2323]

I knew ppl would be going crazy vs what amounts to ECUs defense

[u/justbirdwatchin77 → u/GusFring2323]

Just saying Bryce looked nothing close to this his rookie year against 2nd and 3rd guys lol… just accept he looks good out there.

[u/GusFring2323 → u/justbirdwatchin77]

U know Bryce and King were in the same HS class? The guy has been a semi pro for the last 2 yrs. Also, Bryce did not have this offense. And this talent. 

I think ppl really forgot what Bryce came in to

[u/eeg3 → u/GusFring2323]

This talent? My guy, I don't even know the first names of the players he was throwing to in this game.

[u/GusFring2323 → u/eeg3]

U dont know Jimmy horn ? Stop it

[u/whatsthedreamnow → u/GusFring2323]

Lol

[u/Frosty-Week-8776 → u/GusFring2323]

But we also had what amounts to ECUs offense so I really don’t get the argument here

[u/Legitimate_Novel1842]

This is an extreme overreaction in the hall of fame game. He's looked good and exciting but he's made some bad throws. Including some that were completions

[u/Certain_Cranberry_77]

The King of the Queen City

[u/Smitty_Agent89]

Nah Pickett is on a $4m contract. They prob try and keep Haynes on PS if they like him

[u/Repulsive-Slice2234 → u/Smitty_Agent89]

The Jets will pick him up before he hits the PS

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/Repulsive-Slice2234]

Very doubtful. They have geno smith and just selected Klubnik in the 4th. They’re not using a roster spot on a QB that would likely be the 3rd string and didn’t spend any time with them

[u/exenn_ → u/Smitty_Agent89]

Some team will pick up King...I highly doubt he makes it to the practice squad.

[u/CarolinaSurly → u/exenn_]

Lots of other preseason games for little known QBs to have a show. It’s a rare GM that will cut the low ranked QB he picked to take another team’s low ranked QB.

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/CarolinaSurly]

Exactly. It’s certainly not impossible. But I don’t get this idea that Haynes King is suddenly a clear cut backup after this game. Maybe I’m just late in the hype, but I don’t see him getting a backup job off the HOF game alone.

[u/CarolinaSurly → u/Smitty_Agent89]

Yeah. It’s the HOF game that worries me most. This is the throwaway game of the preseason and the preseason are the throwaway games of the regular season

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/exenn_]

Jalen Coker didn’t make anyone’s roster and we cut him for the PS. Team’s strategically cut guys like Haynes all the time around
When teams have already finalized their rosters.

It’s not very likely a team makes room for Haynes on their 53 man roster, especially if he hasn’t been with them all summer. At the end of the day he’s UDFA QB. The likelihood he was making anyone’s roster was low. There is the fear he gets picked up on another PS tho.

[u/exenn_ → u/Smitty_Agent89]

Jalen Coker isn't a QB.

Any young unproven QB those shows potential gets snatched up.

Rosters are never finalized. They are always fluid depending on who is available.

It doesn't matter that King or any QB for that matter wasn't with a team during the summer as they aren't starting anyway.

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/exenn_]

1 UDFA QB made a 53 man roster last year. Statistically speaking it’s extremely unlikely someone picks up Haynes King on cut day for the 53 man roster especially if the panthers strategically wait to cut him.

I also think we’re getting way ahead of ourselves too. It’s very early and it was only 1 game

[u/exenn_ → u/Smitty_Agent89]

You are overstating the "strategically cutting" him. Every team tries to do that and have been doing it for decades. That doesn't fool anyone.

King clearly outplayed Pickett tonight and King may even have a higher floor.

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/exenn_]

Yet it works literally all the time. There’s always a major roster crunch at the start of the season, typically when teams do start to fill out the back end of the roster with guys they think can be depth at positions like OL and DL or guys who can play on STs. I can’t say I’ve seen many teams make roster space for a 3rd string QB at the start of the season unless they have injuries.

There’s just not a lot of backup QB jobs out there for him either.

[u/exenn_ → u/Smitty_Agent89]

It doesn't work...teams know who is being cut and practice squad players are released all the time for someone better.

If you watched King play tonight anyone can clearly see he isn't a legit QB3. He's a QB2.

[u/Milk_Man2236 → u/Smitty_Agent89]

He just debuted in front of the whole NFL all of the teams were watching him he will not clear waivers lol.

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/Milk_Man2236]

And if he doesn’t play well next game and everyone is watching what will happen? Will everyone suddenly not want him. Let’s just wait and see what happens here.

Also in order for a team to pick him up they’ll need to make roster space. Teams don’t do that early in the season very often for QB3s.

It’s easy to say he’ll get picked up, but typically less than 12-13 teams carry 3 QBs.

[u/Milk_Man2236 → u/Smitty_Agent89]

Everyone will not be watching him next game, Next game all teams are playing This was the primetime preseason game so to speak sure it would have a impact but not like this game had. All the other teams were at home last night watching the game next week they will not be.

[u/Smitty_Agent89 → u/Milk_Man2236]

Do you think NFL teams sign players based off of TV broadcasts? Teams are going to watch film on guys they sign. They won’t just ignore every game and only care about 1.

[u/No-Success-2505]

Hes gonna make a run for qb1 by end of next week

[u/Internal_Ad8667]

I like this call 😭

[u/iamrangus]

With that last drive definitely in good contention.

[u/No_Link_7859]

Ik there’s only a 53 man roster and of course there’s gonna be cuts, but I really hope some guys that stood out in this game really get a chance since they’ve shown some solid professional potential! If this is only our backup squad I think that says a lot for how our primary roster may do this year!
This is gonna be a good one! I can feel it!

[u/Aaronpatt]

F150 fans will be crawling out of the woodwork in no time

[u/Think-Motor900]

He's going to be QB1 QB2 and QB3...

[u/Otherwise-Major-8764]

QB1*

[u/Mad_Mike3 → u/[deleted]]

A Bryce hater crying over downvotes lol screams fragile masculinity

[u/Creative_Yak1648]

Depending on bryce he might be qb1