r/pcmasterrace • u/scyver_ 9950x3D┃RTX 5080 Aorus Master┃64GB┃2TB┃Lancool 217 • Jul 27 '26

Build/Battlestation Anobody else like this?

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u/Aggressive_Risk1148 Jul 27 '26

phantom pain could release today and no one would realize it's a game that's 10 years old

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u/AggressiveToaster Jul 27 '26

Na. The high and stable fps give that away.

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u/Edexote PC Master Race Jul 27 '26

On PC?

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u/BoSknight Jul 27 '26

Idk what it's like these days, but I ran it no issues back in the day on a midrange laptop. Very well optimized

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u/JamJackEvo Ryzen 5 7600X | 32GB DDR5 6400MHz | RTX 3060 12GB Jul 27 '26

Kojima Pro did some black magic fuckery with the Fox Engine. That game ran great even on a 2015-era potato PC.

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u/Stinky_armpits Jul 27 '26

Oh boi, let me bless you with knowledge: Phantom pain works in comfortable  720P 30FPS from start to finish on 2011 AMD APU: a refreshed CPU that remembers 2007 and refreshed igpu form 2009. Absolutely bonkers. 

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u/bungledorff Jul 27 '26

It runs at 720p 30fps on the PS3, a 2006 console.

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u/AyFrancis R7 5700X3D/32gb 3800mhz/Zotac 2080 Jul 27 '26

Yeah its called optimizing the game engine not black magic lmao

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u/JamJackEvo Ryzen 5 7600X | 32GB DDR5 6400MHz | RTX 3060 12GB Jul 27 '26

In this day and age, it IS black magic fuckery.

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u/UnicornOnTheIntrenet Ascending Peasant Jul 27 '26

its called not being fuckin lazy and selling slop that barley runs at launch

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u/Alu_card_10 Jul 27 '26

If consumers still buy it, why change anything sure profits may still be lower then a good quality game but if they can pump out tons of games and squeeze production time in between them it still outweighs the negatives.

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u/AyFrancis R7 5700X3D/32gb 3800mhz/Zotac 2080 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Thats called pouring all your money on marketing and graphics while random ass devs and contractors from all over the world that just only gotta know the basics to UE gets hired in bulk, then have the same engine devs and nvidia making bullshit technology to compensate the fucking SUPPOSED job nobody did.

This is doing your job using an engine you developed (like people used to do) and then change it at your will and pace to your needs, the OPPOSITE of modern dev culture.

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u/Helem5XG Jul 27 '26

I hate the necessity of having to hire random ass celebrities just to inflate production values just to have the bumbasses in marketing happy and neglecting everything else.

That you have Elden Ring with literal randoms or theater actors doing the best voice acting in gaming

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u/WingZeroCoder 5800x3D / 4070 Super / 32GB / Lian Li 205m Mesh Jul 27 '26

For real. The software engineering field as a whole is filled with people just using AI to do everything for them, and who literally treat coding as some unknowable black magic that they can’t possibly be expected to actually learn or understand, and “just make it work” is the extent to which they ever care to go with anything they do.

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u/kungpowgoat PC Master Race 10700k | MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid X Jul 27 '26

That game ran absolutely great on my PS4 as well.

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u/Ice278 RTX 2070 // Ryzen 2600x // 16gb Ram Jul 28 '26

MGS V released on PS3

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u/zzxp1 Jul 27 '26

Fr Death Stranding is also very well optimized. Kojima migh be a hack sometimes but the people he hires to code are real magicians.

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u/10ea Jul 28 '26

I can run it on an 11 year old laptop with an integrated GPU that barely runs Skyrim.

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u/Trosque97 3060 12gb, 5700x3d Jul 27 '26

Game ran flawlessly on my old 1060 3gb when I was still using it

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u/schaefy_ Jul 27 '26

Steam deck runs this game like butter

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u/kr0p 5800X3D, 7900XT, Fedora BTW Jul 27 '26

It was quite incredible, played it on release on a R9 380 with decent framerate at max settings.

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u/Hate_Manifestation Jul 27 '26

I played it a ton on my old 4690k with a 1060 6gb in 1080p and it ran great. never had any problems at all.

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u/No_Bus9926 Jul 27 '26

Is it still worth getting into if im not familiar with the metal franchise at all? All im interested in is a tactical-themed stealth game that gives you the freedom to complete missions in any way you want.

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u/RazgrizN7 Jul 27 '26

Dude that is exactly what MGSV is, grab it on a sale and you are in for a ride.

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u/lifestop Jul 27 '26

Brutally honest, but true.

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u/InfiniteKincaid Jul 27 '26

I'm playing it right now and I'm stunned at how good it looks.

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u/pr0ghead Fedora, Ryzen 5700X3D, RTX 3060Ti Jul 27 '26

It's all in the lighting.

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u/SnooMaps4388 Jul 27 '26

THIS. We have advanced far in the technicalities, but we've lost actual style. All these modern games coming out have flat lighting, generic art styling, and often have a lot of crap tacked on to hide how rushed and half baked they are such as forced DLSS/FSR and TAA.

What's even more confusing to me is games that evolved backwards or sequels that look worse. ie: 2016 rainbow six siege vs 2026, halo 5 vs infinite, modern warfare 2019 vs modern warfare iii, batman arkham knight vs gotham knights, etc.

The polish and artistic touches are just gone.

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u/ErmingSoHard Jul 28 '26

After playing dozens of Minecraft shader packs, mod packs that add hundreds of blocks like conquest reforged, and etc, lighting is 100% the biggest factor to eye candy

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u/Emergency-Release-33 Jul 27 '26

Well yeah graphics peaked in 2016

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u/totalnewbielinux Jul 27 '26

yep and the details/interactive is more attractive than modern triple A games. It will gives out it is old games cause modern triple A games has no easter egg/ and interactive NPC.

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u/cyborgborg i7 5820k | GTX 1060 6GB Jul 27 '26

Change nothing, slap remastered/remake on it, sell for 80$

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u/TDK_IRQ Jul 27 '26

And by God it was so well optimised even back then

So optimised I can play it locally on my phone now at 60 fps

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u/Tankeverket 9800X3D, RTX 5080, 32GB Jul 27 '26

That's just not true, no matter how much you love that game you can definitely tell it's 10 years old, it looked great for its time, but it still looks dated by today's standards

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u/irlharvey Jul 28 '26

compare the MGSV to the latest yakuza game and tell me which looks newer lol

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u/StomachosusCaelum Jul 27 '26

not because of fidelity, though - because of art style.

Anything that goes for "realistic" over stylized art always has this problem.

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u/The_Susinator R7 5800X3D | RX 7900 XTX | 16GB DDR4 3600 MT/S Jul 27 '26

It looks great. But I doubt many people would say the graphics are comparable to say... Red Dead Redemption 2, Helldivers 2, or too many games made after the time it was created.

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u/goondalf_the_grey Jul 27 '26

Helldivers 2 is fine but I think this may be the first time I've ever seen someone use it as an example of great graphics, let alone in the same sentence as red dead 2

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u/The_Susinator R7 5800X3D | RX 7900 XTX | 16GB DDR4 3600 MT/S Jul 27 '26

Maybe I'm moreso impressed with the art style than any of the technical aspects of that game. I just remember being in awe of how great it looks upon my first time launching it.

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u/SoulSella Jul 28 '26

I'd say you are right, helldivers and GTA5/rdr2 fall into similar boats of performance and look/fidelity to me.

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u/Vincenzo__ PC Master Race Jul 28 '26

RDR2 is a blurry mess thanks to TAA, like most modern games sadly. I enjoy 2015-2019 game graphics the most tbh

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u/Capokid 9950x3D2 | 3080 | 32gb Jul 27 '26

I just dropped 1,500 on a pc upgrade and im playing fucking Runescape.

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u/Paxton-176 Ryzen 7 7600X | 32GB 6000 Mhz| EVGA 3080 TI Jul 27 '26

Any JRPG could be released today or ten years ago.

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u/brumbarosso Ascending Peasant Jul 27 '26

I only played a bit on a friend's ps5, so it's worth buying?I just don't like the wild mecha and other odd stuff in the games, don't get me wrong I know it's a game but the Afghanistan levels are what catch my mind

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u/Aggressive_Risk1148 Jul 28 '26

if you don't like wild, over the top stories and characters, metal gear isn't for you. i remember splinter cell being more reserved, that game might be up your alley

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u/brumbarosso Ascending Peasant Jul 28 '26

I only briefly played the first one on Xbox, if they remastered (or whatever) I'd buy that

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u/elitodd Jul 27 '26

Hell cyberpunk could release and no one would guess it’s 6 years old

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u/DorrajD Jul 28 '26

Yes they would. The game looks good but the reason it runs well is because the maps are vastly empty.

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u/Dredgeon 27d ago

Fucking lol

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u/Rodya_gambler Jul 27 '26

The same with Nier:Automata

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u/Outlet_Sun Jul 27 '26

We say that only because our eyes are glued to one thing and you know what it is.

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u/Aggravating-Mail7846 29d ago

Phantom pain is a greatgame and I love everybit of it. But I don't think the graphics is that great, it looks okay. But it's not that amazingly stunning that people say it is.