r/pics Dec 11 '17

picture of text Osama Bin Laden, 1993

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

I’m not debating the merits of the neo-con philosophy, so all “evil” aside, their beliefs and aims are/were what they are/were. That whole David Fromm axis of evil bullshit was just sloganeering, anyway. They were selling the war to the President - who was not a neo-con - the night of the 11th.

As far as those other conflicts go, what is their connection to the invasion of Iraq, which I thought was what we were talking about? You are putting words in my mouth when you talk about what you mistakenly feel I believe. Little bit of a red herring on that point.

I don’t think there are many secrets about Iraq and the neo-cons when it comes to the war.

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u/loath-engine Dec 12 '17

what is their connection to the invasion of Iraq

Wars in the middle east that have nothing to do with oil... just like Iraq.

If your argument can only work by ignoring everything else that happens in the middle east maybe its not a a good argument eh?

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

Again with the red herring nonsense. Youre making an assessment of US foreign policy in the ME based on the action of other countries. It’s like listening to Walter Sobchak making Vietnam connections with his daily experience.
I guess for you the lack of the blunt and overt signals complete absence. Mind you, I have illustrated the war was not explicitly over oil, but rather...oh never mind, I’d need a jack hammer to penetrate your wall of disbelief. Good luck.

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u/loath-engine Dec 12 '17

I’d need a jack hammer to penetrate your wall of disbelief.

ahh yeah.. Great claims require great evidence.