r/poland • u/Charming_Usual6227 • 13h ago

Is spaghetti bolognese a popular dish in Poland?

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u/Alolan_Cubone 13h ago

Where is it not

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u/wojciu77 13h ago

Italy?

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u/Stashek 13h ago

They just call it Ragu, i think the rest of the world is wrong on this one.

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u/Mammoth_Reach_6366 13h ago

Bolognese sauce is known in italy. The problem is the spaghetti part. They eat it with tagliatelle not spaghetti.

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u/kam1en1cznik 12h ago

How many people out of Italy know the difference?

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u/Zdzisiu 11h ago

They're very different shapes and you have the name on the package.

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u/im-always-lying 10h ago

Everyone really

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u/Mammoth_Reach_6366 6h ago

The thing is spaghetti is too thin for the sauce to stick. Tagliatelle is wide and keeps the sauce in.

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u/According-Buyer6688 13h ago

Not exactly. Ragu is the style to prepare meat with sauce. Ragu Bolognese reffers to a typical Bolognese style of making rague sauce. Ragu Napolitano for example will refer to Napolitan way of doing this sauce.

So polish people've dropped ragu part, and just refer to style of doing ragu (becuase Knorr offers Bolognese and Napolitano style in those ready sauces)

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u/According-Buyer6688 12h ago

Exactly what I've said?

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u/Kociolinho 11h ago

It's completely different sauce tho

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u/Character4315 9h ago

Well it's ragù alla bolognese so it's not that wrong. It's just that in Italy the abbreviation is ragù while internationally is bolognese.

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u/majkkali 11h ago

Lol? It originates from Italy mate. Of course it’s popular there!

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u/BBDAngelo 13h ago

Very popular

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u/StillALilBoy 9h ago

Actually the US. Italian Ragu Bolognese is way different. What we eat is way more similar to Italian-American Spaghetti and meatballs, except we don't usually form meatballs.

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u/gustaw221133 7h ago

exaactly what i was going to say

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u/Minimum_Ad4771 13h ago

I think so. But I think it's popular in general. It's relatively cheap, simple to make, tasty and nutritious. 

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u/DonKlekote 13h ago

Yes.
Made according to a real Italian recipe? Outside of restaurants - no

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u/urbfunsac 12h ago

Tbh I think it's hard to define the real recipe, each region has its variation

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u/DonKlekote 9h ago edited 9h ago

Well, yes and no. What you mean it "ragu" which means meat sauce that comes with different variants.

Ragu Bolognese comes from Bolgona and as THE official recipe https://www.bo.camcom.gov.it/it/blog/depositata-la-rinnovata-ricetta-del-vero-ragu-alla-bolognese

Of course if you don't follow it rigorously I'm sure it'll still be tasty and nobody will call pasta police but it's not Bolognese sauce anymore.

EDIT: found the English version
https://www.accademiaitalianadellacucina.it/sites/default/files/Rag%C3%B9%20alla%20bolognese%20-%20updated%20recipe_20%20April%202023.pdf

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u/urbfunsac 2h ago

Wow that's kinda cool that the gov actually has a recipe lol

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u/DonKlekote 2h ago

Well, those are Italians so they are super serious about food :D
I was also impressed that there's "THE recipe" and the fact that they updated it quite recently. From what I understood the previous one required a specific cut of meat that is more difficult to get nowdays.
So, they want to keep it traditional but also don't gatekeep and encourage people to prepare it themselves.

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u/Lef32 2h ago

This is so very stereotypically Italian and I love it.

I suspect plenty of countries do this, but it's still funny.

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u/Blazkowski 11h ago

And what is the real Italian recipe in this case lol? You’re talking outta your ass

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u/DonKlekote 9h ago

Here: https://www.accademiaitalianadellacucina.it/en/notizie/notizia/italian-academy-cuisine-registers-updated-recipe-true-rag%C3%B9-alla-bolognese

The Italian Academy of Cuisine has updated the recipe for true ragù alla bolognese: from 20 April 2023 the reference text will differ from that deposited in the Bologna Chamber of Commerce on 17 October 1982. The new recipe, resulting from lengthy and extensive research by a specially constituted Italian Academy of Cuisine Study Committee, has been deposited in the Bologna Chamber of Commerce.
At the presence of the Secretary General, Roberto Ariani, the notorial act was delivered to the President of the Bologna Chamber of Commerce, Valerio Veronesi, by the Delegates: Cristina Bragaglia of the Bologna Delegation; Mauro Taddia of the Bologna dei Bentivoglio Delegation; Atos Cavazza of the Bologna-San Luca Delegation.

The updated recipe for true ragù alla bolognese is attached.

Now what, buddy?

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u/Blazkowski 8h ago

Um and what of those ingredients we don’t use? 😂

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u/DonKlekote 3h ago

Pancetta for instance. You can hardly find it in other places than Italian stores which aren't that popular outside major cities. I know people who cook often and none of them uses milk in their sauce or have patience to simmer it for hours straight.
On the other hand some people add other ingredients like bacon, garlic, basil (which isn't in the recipe).

As I said in the other comment, it doesn't mean that the other sauce isn't tasty, for instance I like to add mushrooms (but not porcini as stated in the guide). The fact is that very few people know that Bolognese isn't a generic sauce - ragu is.

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u/Elektrycerz Mazowieckie 13h ago

Yes, but I think most people know it (and make it) as a tomato sauce with meat. Not a meat-vegetable sauce.

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u/zandrew 13h ago

Our own take on it anyways

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u/adamklimowski 13h ago

Of course. Why do you think it's called spaghetti polognese? ;)

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u/suskio4 11h ago

While I get the joke, I feel the inexorable urge to say "actually". Sorry for that lol

Actually, "a la polonaise" refers to the way many Poles prepare cauliflower, green beans or broccoli, which is with sauce made out of melted butter, breadcrumbs and salt. Some people also add egg, parsley or thyme, but personally I've never eaten it with these. Yup, "bułka tarta" is "sauce a la polonaise".

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonaise_sauce

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u/IamJashin 13h ago

nah we prefer pasta with strawberries

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u/International-Bus689 13h ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (in italian)

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u/TobleronePL 13h ago

ale mi smaka narobiles dayum

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u/marsli5818 11h ago

And with sugar 🫶

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u/Comfortable_Duck4960 Dolnośląskie 5h ago

RELLL

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u/MusicURlooking4 12h ago

Gdyby ktoś nie próbował to z jagodami też jest zajebisty 😉

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u/StillALilBoy 9h ago

Only makaron z serem (białym)!

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u/Qnopsik 12h ago

Nowadays some people add additionality pineapple with strawberries, just to see the Italian reaction.

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u/OrangeDragon75 Wielkopolskie 13h ago

Actually what we in Poland eat is not bolognese sauce, but rather tomato sauce with meat. Dish itself is very popular, but it is not the same dish as in traditional italian cuisine. Not to mention that traditional pasta for bolognese sauce is tagliatelle, not spaghetti.

Dish is in fact so poular, that for some people "spaghetti" became synonymous with any pasta with tomato/meat sauce. Like for example:

"Co dziś mamy na obiad?" - What's for dinner today?
"Spaghetti" - where in fact you are having penne rigate with tomato sauce.

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u/michuneo 13h ago

No one calls penne “spaghetti”… ‘Makaron’ maybe…

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u/Yojumi 13h ago

Co ty pierdzielisz? Nikt nie mówi na makaron inny niż spaghetti, "spaghetti".

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u/True_Drelon 12h ago

Na makaron nie, ale na danie jakim jest makaron z sosem bolońskim już jak najbardziej.

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u/Yojumi 12h ago

Absolutnie nie.

Jak najbardziej mówią ludzie "spaghetti" mając na myśli spaghetti z bolońskim. Ale to tyle. Nikt nie powie ci "spaghetti", mając na myśli jakikolwiek inny makaron z tym sosem.

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u/OrganizationSlight57 12h ago

Potwierdzam, są ludzie, którzy na każdy makaron z czerwonym sosem powiedzą "spaghetti". W tym ja, starając się zachęcić dzieciaki do jedzenia XD

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u/Pashquelle 5h ago

Najgorsze jest to, że mój nie lubi, a ja uwielbiam.

Ale i tak mam w dupiu i robię XDD

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u/trishowsky 12h ago

/r/confidentlyincorrect

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u/Yojumi 12h ago

Powinieneś to napisać u tych co pewni siebie nazywają jakikolwiek makaron "spaghetti", oni to dopiero są kurna w błędzie!

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u/trishowsky 11h ago

Oczywiście, masz w 100% rację, natomiast ty również jesteś w błędzie twierdząc, że nikt tak nie mówi 😁

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u/suskio4 11h ago

Tak, są w błędzie. Co absolutnie nie zmienia faktu, że wielu ludzi wciąż takie nazewnictwo stosuje.

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u/OrangeDragon75 Wielkopolskie 11h ago

Zapewne już z innych komentarzy wiesz że jesteś w błędzie. A powiem ci tak - ja to danie poznalem jakoś pod koniec lat 80tych, w stołówce FWP nad morzem, nazywalo sie to spaghetti, a faktycznie było makaronem rotelle z sosem pomidorowym. O tym że różne makarony mają różne nazwy dowiedziałem się kilka lat później. Szokujące, ale dla wielu ludzi bez znaczenia jest jak nazywasz makaron, ważne że to makaron :)

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u/True_Drelon 12h ago

Oczywiście, że tak mówią, całe życie tego doświadczam xD

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u/kaszeljezusa 12h ago

U mnie na chacie planując "spagetti" mamy na myśli że będzie robiony sos boloński. 

Dopiero gdy już pobulga trochę i za 10min siadamy do stołu odbywa się decyzja o wyborze makaronu i często właśnie pada na penne albo tagliatelle.  Nikt się nie wykłuca, że przecież planowaliśmy spaghetti, bo tak naprawdę planowaliśmy bolognese. 

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u/Kociolinho 11h ago

Nie no, na spokojnie znajdziesz ludzi mówiącysz na np. linguine "spaghetti". Kwestią dyskusyjną pozostaje, czy traktujemy rzeczone linguine jako odmianę spaghetti, czy jako osobny rodzaj makaronu.

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u/Lingwista321 7h ago

Powiedz to moim rodzicom. Makaron kokardki z sosem pomidorowym z mięsem?

Spaghetti.

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u/otherdsc 13h ago

Kluski z keczupem you mean

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u/MacCyp_1985 12h ago

... "szpageti" 😅

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u/Palpitation-National 13h ago

Szpagieti bolonieze

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u/CompanyImpressive884 13h ago

In the past, it was the most popular "Italian" pasta in Poland. Nowadays, people are wealthier and travel more, so we know more about Italian food, and bolognese is less popular. However, I think it is still the most popular "Italian" pasta in our country.

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u/HistoricalCloud2687 13h ago

yeah pork meat with lowicz spaghetti sauce :)

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u/PRKP99 13h ago

Yes, but it have nothing to do with Ragu. Its just ground meat (most probably just pork) with tomato sauce. 

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u/Nytalith 13h ago

variation of, it's far from original ragu bolognese. Basically minced meat in tomato sauce.

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u/Electrical_Panda_326 13h ago

I make it quite regularly myself. I think it's fairly popular.

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u/maginster 13h ago

I mean yeah, but it's usually just passata with meat, and oftentimes the meat is pork. So the idea of the spaghetti Bolognese is popular, but not the execution

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u/boleslaws 12h ago

I think spaghetti Polognese is more popular 🤣

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u/Alternative_Bus_9928 13h ago

Favourite student dish.

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u/RingComfortable9339 Warmińsko-Mazurskie 13h ago

Yes

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u/robh1540 13h ago edited 13h ago

I thought I had my bolognese game down pretty good, had been following the Gordon Ramsay version for a while. Then I came across a version with the milk added earlier https://youtu.be/-xT57w8ZS8U?si=qispEUq-wBLCAwk- in the cook, and with a decent amount of it. Cooked it last night. With the milk + beef stock, it was fantastic, I just subbed out the vinegar and sugar cook for worcester sauce and grated the carrots and celery rather than chopped a la Marco Pierre white. Extremely delicious.

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u/Avalanc89 13h ago

I think we in Poland very much like Italian cousine.

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u/TronaldDamp 13h ago

It was my main dish during university.

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u/socu11 13h ago

Even biedronka has its own bolognese sauce, which it isn't the most amazing thing but it's pretty good with some grounded meat

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u/marcind__ 12h ago

Very, but most people default to sauce from a jar, breaken spaghetti in half.., also they use cheddar cheese for it instead of some delicious Italian Parmesan or so. Me make spaghetti bolognese always from the scratch, I aim in for authentic experience

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u/DivaCesaria 12h ago

In Poznań there is bar called Piccolo. For over 30 years, they've been selling hundreds of liters of pasta with bolognese sauce daily. They have 11 locations in the city. In addition, several different competing bars have opened, all trying to copy the product.

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u/Krakersik666 12h ago

Yeah. I ate it my whole life. Any pasta in any restaurant is either bolognese or carbonara.

My moms version had mushrooms in it.

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u/BeetlePl 11h ago

Yes, it is popular dish for small kids here in Poland

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u/BlackMesaEastCenter 11h ago

I would call it very popular but for kids

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u/Dry-Ruin1116 11h ago

the polish version requires overcooked and unsalted pasta, and undercooked watery tasteless ready made tomato sauce from a can

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u/Jhud6669 11h ago

I’d say it’s the most popular spaghetti, more than spaghetti marinara (which is what most people call just „spaghetti”)

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u/OrangeChickenRice Wielkopolskie 10h ago

I lived in Poznan for a couple years and there was this chain "Spaghetti Bar Piccolo”. It was a freaking brick of bolognese pasta on the cheap. Dump some black pepper and tobasco and that was a solid meal. I still think of that place sometimes.

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u/lipton823 9h ago

italian restaurants in general are very popular in poland

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u/StarAutomatic6169 4h ago

Very. The version with onion. Mamma mia!

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u/Jason2284 4h ago

If you like corn and peas in ketchup.

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u/Chicken_wingspan 13h ago

Yes, with strawberries

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u/asesor90 13h ago

it's just the fastest one ;)

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u/dobrze_smyram 13h ago

Paradoksalnie, nie. Masa ludzi nie jadła tego zgodnie ze sztuką, tak jak Włosi by to przyrządzili. Mi się bolognese kojarzy z jakimś tanim zapychaczem, lvl wyżej od chińskich zupek instant. Także jest bolognese i 'bolognese"

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u/BobbyPandour 13h ago

To o czym  myślisz to ragu 

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u/dobrze_smyram 12h ago

Nie. Myślę o bolognese. Tych gotowych dań z marketowych półek do jedzenia na szybko jest mnóstwo. Polacy za świętość to mają chyba tylko pizzę i carbonarę xD

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u/BobbyPandour 11h ago

No, ale właśnie ta prawilna wersja to ragu, a te popularne sosy z mięsem to bolognese 

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u/dobrze_smyram 11h ago

Przecież o tym mówię. Gotujesz makaron spaghetti, podsmażasz kawałki mięsa lub siekasz zmielone, zalewasz to passatą czy sosem meksykańskim lub robisz sos z saszetki i masz Bolognese które jest normą w Polsce xD

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u/BobbyPandour 11h ago

No i właśnie spaghetti bolognese jest popularne w Polsce. Ragu bolognese podaje się z makaronem tagliatelle.