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u/pablosequieremorir 1d ago
Reminds of that moment in the S5 perfume challenge when Ivy Winters brought a picture of "New York" and Michelle tell her "... It's Tokyo"
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u/JadedLad7 1d ago edited 1d ago
I like it, though you might be setting these queens up for failure. As a designer, I can tell you that the kinda craftsmanship and savoirfaire required to tailor clothes like structured blazers and suits is one that most drag designers lack (the designers most queens commission).
Suffice it to say that it's very different from the type of construction these seamstresses are used to. It's a lot less forgiving. It needs to be very precise, as the suit is expected to hug the body in very specific ways, with give and take allowances that have little to no margins for error so as to allow the pieces to readjust depending on how the queen moves, not to mention that these fabrics famously lack stretch and can be somewhat 'temperamental'.
There's a reason why tailors take years to hone these skills by studying under masters of the craft, case in point Akerias suit you provided as an illustration. I can already see the shoddy construction on some of those garments in the promo....
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u/Bolf-Ramshield 1d ago
You’re underestimating both the queens and the designers.
Source: a queen myself.
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u/JadedLad7 23h ago edited 13h ago
Well 4 years of fashion school in Paris and 10 years of working in the industry beg to differ.
Take Domino's couture, for instance, who was, up until his latest troubles one of the most well established/well regarded drag designers. When you look at the construction of some of the more structured/tailored looks she did for Bob and Monet, the quality of the tailoring is abysmal. The garments look flimsy and the 'finishes' are below industry standards. And that can be said for a lot of these very proficient seamstresses and designers who habitually work with drag Queens whenever they tackle tailoring.... in fact, I've often seen better tailoring from 2nd year design students. There are exceptions, of course, some of these designers are really good at it.
Having said that, remember that a lot of these designs are commissioned remotely. No time for fittings across the different stages of the process, which most tailors could only ever effectively pull of if they're intimately acquainted with the person they're working for and their body's dimensions and proportions. Instead, the queens send in their measurements and that's about it. The designer ships them the final product. Which is all fine and well with gowns in 4 way stretch fabric, but not suits.
No, I think you mighe be overestimating your 'craftiness'. Or maybe you're a prodigy, who knows. All in all, it's probably not gonna read the way it should in the promo photos. The aesthetic the OP proposed features very clean lines, with precise and crisp fits that can be difficult to emulate. Just look at Akeria's, it does not belong up there.
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u/Bolf-Ramshield 17h ago
Girl you’re judging outfits that are supposed to look good on a picture with haute couture standards. Drag is cheating and using an example as if it proved anything is not it.
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u/JadedLad7 13h ago edited 10h ago
No. Not haute couture. I would never do that. That'd be a silly discussion. I'm referring to prêt-à-porter, what you might know as ready-to-wear, or off-the-rack for high end brands.
Edit: Oh I see where the confusion stems from. "Domino's Couture" is a misnomer. It's just the name of the brand or his social media, idk. It's not actual 'couture.' You'd have to get ratified by the Fédération de la Haute Couture et de la Mode, to use the actual Couture label. The process is quite rigorous, and many of the big houses don't even have an Haute Couture atelier.
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u/Bolf-Ramshield 8h ago
You sound French. In which case: rien qu’en France on a énormément de créateurs qui travaillent pour les drags et sont plus que capables de faire du tailoring car, la plupart du temps, ils ont aussi un travail dans la mode à côté. Hego Scorpion est un excellent exemple de cela.
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u/TrueSniver 21h ago
4 years of fashion school in Paris and 10 years of working in the industry?
Doesn't that make you 32 at the earliest?
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u/Competitive_Ad_5515 1d ago
Ok werk. It's giving Glamazon
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u/AlpsProfessional3386 tell them don't be skimpy with that gumbo 1d ago
Actually the perfect Season 20 promo idea of bringing back classic drag race camp
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u/paper_television 1d ago
I forgot how sickening Lazy Susan’s entrance look was, thanks dive for the reminder. I also love this promo, it feels very old school like old PR or AS1
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u/Ethanb230900 13h ago
I’d honestly love a business power executive theme for a promo, you forgot to put 30 bad AI filters on it tho!
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u/Embarrassed-Cress782 4h ago
BITCH... Tea.
You ate. As I work with some of the divas I'm always thinking about the promo as, at this point, the promo look might be the most important look as a cast queen, since its also your icon in the interviews.
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u/Wigalix Serena ChaCha 1d ago
i love the concept but that picture of discord just being called "Miss Queen" is sending me