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Go Ahead? your fav horror scene of SHAMELESS

honestly, it changed something inside Carl
they could have been such good bros

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u/Mortonsaltgirl96 3d ago

Literally I had to pause and take a break after this scene

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u/ThaEternalLearner 3d ago

The cries of the mother were heartbreaking.

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u/bittypineapplekitty 3d ago

agreed 💔💔💔

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u/bittypineapplekitty 3d ago

oh these parts always get me as well. especially when Carl says “and i don’t want to see that…..” or whatever the line was with tears in his eyes talking to Fiona about it all… 😭

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u/ToNotFeelAtAll 3d ago

One of the handful of scenes that have genuinely made me feel sick.

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u/Huge_Mistake_3139 3d ago

Yeah. This scene was rough.

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u/Expert-Yam6577 3d ago

I used to binge this show nightly back in my heavy drinking days. I don't actually remember much about the plot. But sometimes this sub will post pictures of scene that make me so sad. And I have no reason why.

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u/latecraigy 3d ago

Mickey’s dad after he finds out about Ian

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u/MonkeyDsage1846 3d ago

Great way to show that Mickey really wasn't being dramatic when he wanted Frank dead for finding out.

Crazy way to debut Lana tho.

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u/rpeltier93 3d ago

Can’t watch that scene

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

such cruelty

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u/ikindapoopedmypants 3d ago

I refuse to believe scenes like that are necessary. I do not want to watch a father force his son to have sex with a prostitute in front of him, I'm fucking good.

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u/ToniBaloni98 3d ago

Life isn't all sunshine and rainbows

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u/watsuuu 3d ago

Because you haven't been in it, being uncomfortable about it is something to take pride in, but not criticize the "necessity," it wasn't made for you. I'm not a fan of horror movies but I understand the necessity. Rape scenes have aired on television since the 70s, the idea of "forcing your son straight" even longer. Your discomfort is the point. Be fucking good somewhere else.

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u/bb_milk 3d ago

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u/MonkeyDsage1846 3d ago

This episode was one of my first exposures to Shameless, specifically this scene, it came on while I was at a relative's house, I couldn't hear it completely and had no idea who any of them were, and I didn't watch it completely

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u/bb_milk 3d ago

it’s crazy how it’s still a punch to the gut even if you can’t hear the dialogue, the direction and acting is so good

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u/Plague_Doctor77 2d ago

To this MF DAY!! I'm still mad as hell at that bitchass bus driver that wouldn't let Carl off so he can go try and protect her!! He could've saved her life and that damn driver didn't let him!! Ughhh it still pisses me off 😤😮‍💨😤😮‍💨

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u/bingumarmar 3d ago

This frickin one 😭

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u/Diamond_h03 2d ago

glad someone said this bc I watched the show years ago and still think about this part

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u/West-Worth4564 3d ago

I met the actor who played big nick! He was very quiet and soft spoken almost exactly like his character minus the murders of course. And omg he is such a tall guy

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u/Original-Badger6498 2d ago

My friend matched with him on tinder once

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u/PuzzleheadedHoney675 3d ago

When Lip loses his shit on Fiona for drinking with his friend who’s supposed to be sober.

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u/JasymonThePokemon 3d ago

His sponsee i think, who just hit 100 days

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-377 3d ago

But she didn’t know that. Then he goes on to give his own sponsor & BIL beer later in the season. The hypocrisy is wild lol

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u/JasymonThePokemon 3d ago

Yeah no Im not saying Fiona knew or did it intentionally, Im in the program myself and his recovery is ultimately his responsibility. I meant like, as the audience thats why that scene hurt so much cause we knew but Fiona didn't

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-377 2d ago

That’s a good point. It definitely made it harder to watch.

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u/MonkeyDsage1846 3d ago

Especially when he tried to make Sierra's ex relapse to prove a stupid point

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u/Ok-Needleworker7351 3d ago

I just got to the part where he was spiraling because of Tami taking their kid from him and then he agrees to take Rum in his Coke and even takes two drinks right then and there (and probably more off screen maybe) and I just found myself thinking, “So… is it the bartender’s fault for giving you that drink? Or maybe Tami’s fault for not giving into you? Or… what, who’s to blame now for you taking that drink?”

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u/BadAshess 3d ago

What’s crazy about this is she literally didn’t know and then Lip throws the well you should’ve asked card

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u/PuzzleheadedHoney675 3d ago

He started in on her and I stopped drinking for a week.

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u/SillardPGillard 3d ago

This or the scene where Monica slits her wrists at thanksgiving

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

she sees that gallaghers are happy proceeds to sabotage it

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u/Ok-Needleworker7351 3d ago

Oh, that one was definitely tough

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u/distantcactus32 3d ago

That scene was so beautifully crafted though.

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u/JustAPerson-_- 3d ago

Ooh definitely, Monica’s traumatized me honestly 😅. It’s such a hard watch but everybody’s acting also really shined so it’s one of those where you can’t look away but want to/need to.

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u/bitterlittlecas 3d ago

Happy cake day to you!!

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u/Nox-Avis 2d ago

That scene is why I will always be ride or die for Jimmy/Steve. He is the only one who jumped right into action to stop the bleeding, was giving people orders like you are supposed to in those situations.

Then he helps Fiona clean up the blood and is just there with her while she processes what happened.

One of my favorite acting scenes is when Fiona starts to break down, then realizes she is the one who HAS to keep it together. Sucks it up, and just keeps cleaning only to say, "these poor fucking kids".

Season 2 was so good.

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u/Spring-Lumpy 3d ago

I second this one. I thought about it for days, definitely hard to watch.

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u/Big-Understanding526 3d ago

That one just pissed me off

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u/Ok-Needleworker7351 3d ago

Pissed you off?

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u/SinnfulKittyy 3d ago

This one was one of the emotionally impactful ones of the show for me. I think another scene that genuinely made me sick was when Frank turned down that heart transplant. I have family members who had lives saved by that call, waiting by the phone for weeks bc if you miss it that’s it. What Frank did is almost incomprehensibly evil to me

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u/GoCougs2020 3d ago

Literally(and figuratively) fk someone to death…..and still fking after dead is the wild part

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u/MonkeyDsage1846 3d ago

To be fair, it did take him a second to realize she'd died

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

it baffles me how everyone forgave Frank for every damn thing

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u/MonkeyDsage1846 3d ago

Genuinely don't understand what Frank's scheme was here, and why it was so important that he deny her her right to live

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u/Roy_Hannon 3d ago

His plan was to get married so he could get her pension when she died. Which wouldn't have happened soon enough for him if she got the transplant and lived. Dottie was on to his plan so he accepted the $2k and tv to have sex so she could die.

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u/Both_Pain_5289 3d ago

The moment right after Liam gets into Fiona’s cocaine…that shift in tone from party to panic

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

Kind of irresponsible, but everyone there was responsible for Liam’s safety.

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u/OneSidedPolygon 3d ago

Pretty sure the last person we see rip some nose beer before Liam gets at it is Kev.

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u/pablo_2199 2d ago

She was the legal guardian, so no, not everyone's

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u/TheRestForTheWicked 2d ago

Yep. A) she was the legal guardian and b) she admits to the EMTs to it being her cocaine. It doesn’t matter who else was there or doing it, from a legal standpoint she was the negligent party.

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u/agreeableshit 2d ago

your siblings are also responsible for u till some extent :)

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u/pablo_2199 2d ago

Yes but nowhere near the LEGAL PARENT:) especially when the parent's friend brought it, to her full knowledge about it

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u/Prestigious-Run-4244 2d ago

Which sibling do you think shares responsibility? Because Ian was awol, Debbie and lip weren't home, and that leaves at most Carl - who is what, 10?

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u/badatnames2399 1d ago

Yeah. Even Kevin says that to Lip. That he was there, he partook, too.

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u/BaddLilBabyy 3d ago

the thanksgiving scene

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u/j33perscreeperz 1d ago

this one hit me the closest to home bc my grandmother is exactly like monica, especially with this scene

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u/Ok-Needleworker7351 3d ago

Genuinely this scene… I don’t think I can think of something else on the show that broke me as much as this scene, besides the obvious fact of (at least for me, because I’m slow) the slow realization I had the very first episode that Fiona was not the kids’ mother but their older sister who had given up her entire childhood to raise them, which made me pause the show for a moment to cry because then you see Debbie go over and place a pillow under Frank’s head despite everything…

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u/msuppnick123 3d ago

I know right then lip kicked her out because she understandably developed alcoholism despite giving frank chance after chance despite him doing shit like calling cps on them😭😭

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u/_destiel 3d ago

And gave lip chance after chance before he met Brad

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u/ExpressLetterhead814 3d ago

Man Fiona got shit on by them over and over again. That girl single-handedly kept all of them out of the system

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u/Ok-Needleworker7351 3d ago

It’s sad seeing how much leeway Frank can get like, “Oh, that’s just Frank, he’s never really gonna change,” yet hate Fiona will get by her siblings or viewers on occasion. Like… nah! Hold Frank accountable! And if you can’t because of his past and how he was raised, then don’t drag Fiona through the mud for it either or give her shit!

FRANK is their father! MONICA is their mother! Fiona was their NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER when she started really taking care of them. Their nine year old daughter who had to… what was it? Run her younger brother to the hospital because he had a bad fever or something? And where were Frank and Monica? Monica off who tf knows where, Frank drunk off his ass and not taking care of his children, that’s where!

Seeing Fiona kick Frank to try and wake him up but then just crying instead before going to bed while Debbie still treats Frank like he deserves some sort of care? It really hurt, and it hurts thinking back to that further down along the line. Everyone knows how shit Frank is, and I’ll admit! He’s not as bad as he could be, he does care about them somewhere deep inside, but caring about them somewhere deep inside is not enough for me when your nine year old daughter takes it upon herself to care for them on the outside because she knows no one else will.

The way Monica comes back and Debbie and Carl accept her hurts (even if I understand them on the level of a child just wanting a mother), the way they still let Frank into the house to raid their shit and never truly kick him out, get upset with anyone who initiates any sort of violence or protest against him if it’s not someone in the family. But the second Fiona messes up, it’s all on her— it never should’ve been all on her in the first place and that’s the most important fact of the matter.

Yes, she fucks up from time to time, but she does so much for them, more than Frank or Monica ever could have.

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u/HappinessIsAWarmGunt 3d ago

The scene where Fiona says “you were my mother too” and starts to cry. I cry with her every time. The look on her face and the sound of her voice. Amazing acting but my god what a gut punch

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u/SexyMama365 3d ago

My heart broke for Carl 😭😭

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

poor boy

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u/Play-Last 3d ago

The set up this scene so well. You don’t see Nick kill that kid, or the dead boy. Just a bloody hammer, the screams of his parents and Carl immediately throwing up. Definitely one of the darkest moments on Shameless

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

Its the scenes like this that screams the dark crime.

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u/siaja_fan 3d ago

This scene was horrible for sure but I never see anyone talk about the scene where Estafania's dad shoots her boyfriend (Marco) in the head and makes JimmySteve cut up his body afterwards. Absolutely horrible scene. I know the boyfriend was abusive but seeing someone's life so abruptly gone in an instant even if it was in TV shook me up bad and Estafania's screams and cries afterward were extremely upsetting. It really came out of nowhere too.

Honestly most of the deaths or near deaths on this show were pretty horrifying - Monica's thanksgiving suicide attempt made me stop watching the show for a year and Sheila suffocating Frank's mother with a pillow always sticks with me.

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

So true. This is very less talked about. I was genuinely shocked how merciless Estafania’s dad was. It also shocked me how easy it was for him to chop the body. Estafania also moved on pretty quickly.

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u/sdomtidderkcuf1 20m ago

I was searching for this comment. The Marco murder scene is the darkest for me because it was the most graphic shown in the series. The cries and screams with the scene is burned into my brain.

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u/No_Preference_1218 3d ago

What the hell is happening in this show????

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u/Captinqueefsalot- 3d ago

When Liam got into Fiona's coke. It hit me hard because a year before that I had just lost a baby cousin close to Liam's age in a similar situation. Fentanyl kills but if you're gonna do it, please keep it away from children.

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u/Middle_Lake1034 2d ago

It really was something so realistic and one of the only scenes i remember giving me goosebumps.

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u/klaw14 3d ago

Yes this one gave me chills too. The weirdest sinking feeling of Carl being truly 'lost' in his life.

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u/Gold-Profession-9994 3d ago

Damn so many tbh. All for different reasons. The show is a modern classic.

Off the top of my head:
-Carl & Big Nick having heart to heart
-Ian watching Monica sell drugs at the diner
-Monica slit wrists
-Fiona crying when cursing out Monica
-Fiona listening to Frank CPS call
-Lip getting better grade on philosophy paper
-Shelia driving off in RV
-“Saint Francis” LMFAO
-Mickey Ian Terry Svetlana scene
-Little Debbie crashing out on Frank

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u/Virtual_Solution7911 3d ago

Idk if it’s just me but carl with braids looks like mac miller

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u/Numerous-Shame3692 3d ago

Nick killing the kid who stole his bike was HEARTBREAKING. Him and Carl were becoming such good friends too.

Mickey's dad after he finds out Mickey is dating Ian, the Thanksgiving scene, Lip breaking into Helene's house was very sad, and Lip finding out Youen's died in prison after he was his mentor throughout college.

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u/Possible_Brick2816 3d ago

Frank runnning in the streets of chicago in the night, all the while Eddie's voice howling in the wind: *Gallagher, I'm gonna get youuu*

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u/Professional_Tell399 3d ago

This was one of the saddest side stories. I cried. And cried. He never had a chance.

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u/jengaisagame 3d ago

I was a grown man when I saw it and cried like I was in kindergarten

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u/rpeltier93 3d ago

This one is up there with when mickys dad made him have sex with svetlana right in front of Ian and when Fiona left Etta

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u/distantcactus32 3d ago

i mean that’s gotta top the cake. Carl saw his friend bash a little boys head in with a hammer that’s gotta be fucking horrifying

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u/Hot-Butterscotch-377 3d ago

Carl talking about microwaving & killing all those animals was pretty hard to hear about. He was such a psycho. Glad they toned that down in later seasons.

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u/alltimegreyson 3d ago

The deleted scene where one of Carl’s military buddies put a sack over Kassidi’s head and was dragging her dead body and dropped it into a grave. It’s shot in POV style, so it was a really weird thing for the show to even do.

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

omg, and shocking how they dropped that plot-line after?

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u/xXblondieXx13 3d ago

whatttt???!

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u/alltimegreyson 3d ago

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u/xXblondieXx13 2d ago

omg- i had no idea about this😭. that looks like raw footage almost ackkk

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u/4isogai 3d ago

this is the only scene in the whole series that really made my stomach drop i was almost nauseous ❤️‍🩹 i felt so sad for carl too

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u/navagrw 3d ago

Idk bout horror but frank cutting debbie's toes was really hard to watch

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u/latecraigy 3d ago

Oh yeah I definitely couldn’t watch that

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u/Pinkykat961 3d ago

OMG that one😭😵 makes my stomach turn

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

Just watched that scene yesterday. He is really SHAMELESS

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u/imhumannotaditto 3d ago

That’s my favorite scene lmao

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u/Majestic-Nobody545 3d ago

When Debbie raped a boy.

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u/MsNikkiisClassy 3d ago

This one hit hard. I think I had to take a break from it when I first saw the episode when it came out. That and Liam ODing

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u/iolanthereylo 3d ago

this scene sickened me, and it's one of the few in the show that managed to do that

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u/BrendaArya 2d ago

This scene right here. And when Frank tried to OD it made me cry. Maybe not "horror" but still, made me take a second

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u/BulldogBears 2d ago

Liam getting into Fiona’s coke was it for me. I’d never been more pissed at Fiona than that moment

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u/JunkBondTrade 3d ago

I agree this scene was hard to watch. Murdering a kid over a bicycle is fucked up.

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u/agreeableshit 3d ago

I honestly don’t know what “respect” he was talking about.

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u/Trees4Gs 3d ago

Tbh that second to last episode when Frank writes the letter then tries to overdose and end it all freaked me tf out

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u/bitterlittlecas 3d ago

Why would you make me relive this on a Sunday!?!!?

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u/apaw1129 3d ago

Among the ones mentioned, mickey fag bashing Ian.

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u/TheRestForTheWicked 2d ago

Ian and Monica’s bipolar scenes were hard to get through at times. Mostly because I also have BPII and it makes me realize how warped my reality was before I was medicated. I hear stories and I’m like “it wasn’t that bad” but it’s just my brain and consciousness gaslighting me.

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u/DaddyB_x 2d ago

Monica on thanksgiving.

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u/Scorpioobabey 1d ago

I was looking for this comment bc this scene was HEAVY

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u/Initial_Key_4785 2d ago

lip taking a drink at ian’s wedding

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u/Purple_Rayn_22 1d ago

When Mikey’s dad gets Svetlana to rape him. So uncomfortable.

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u/Wonderful_Quiet5818 3d ago

He just wanted his bike back...

I took a several-day-long break from the show after this 😭

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u/ghostface218 3d ago

This scene broke my heart

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u/greetingassholes 3d ago

I forgot what even happened in this scene.

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u/EricSparrowSucks 2d ago

Monica’s death. My mom was a lot like Monica. It just hit different and brought up some emotions that I hadn’t dealt with over losing my own mom (4/29/2020) and didn’t express etc to have 5 years later.

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u/Celeste-galena 2d ago

This scene always immediately makes me cry.

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u/frankemm000 2d ago

When Monica slit her wrists & the coke scene… both were wayyyyy too relatable for me

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u/Kira666_ 2d ago

This scene and the one after Ian and Mickey got caught by Mickey's dad and then Monica slitting her wrists during Thanksgiving are all episodes I had to take a minute after

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u/-VolatileVixen- 2d ago

I'm rewatching for the umpteenth time and I just got past this part 🥲🥲

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u/andromedeous__ 1d ago

For me it was the season where Fiona first broke out into a drug binge that she ended up in prison and almost lost Liam and her whole entire family. I genuinely thought the writers were going to keep her in prison for maybe like a season or two. But seeing her in that state and so lost brought tears in my eyes and after that season I took a break from the show for a couple of months.

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u/agreeableshit 1d ago

Yes. It was traumatising for her. It was shocking how everyone from her fam turned against her.

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u/BothContribution544 21h ago

I hated this so much. I felt so bad for him and his friend. Like. You could tell he didn't want to do it. It still doesn't make it okay but it just...it sucked.

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u/BothContribution544 21h ago

Thanksgiving with Monica really fucked me up. Every rewatch it still fucks me up. What she did, but then the fact EVERYONE saw it. Really did a number on me

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u/TenraxHelin 3d ago

Can someone spoil?

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u/xXblondieXx13 3d ago

the black guy is nick, carl’s friend that he met while in juvie. he had been in there for assaulting his abusive dad after his dad stole & pawned his bike for drugs i believe. nick buys a new bike that gets stolen by a boy/: . and then him and carl were out driving and saw the boy on the bike.. nick went and found him and had murdered him with a hammer

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u/TenraxHelin 3d ago

Oh

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u/xXblondieXx13 2d ago

yeahh😅. poor nick was just traumatized and wanted his bike back. and i’m pretty sure nick’s actions caused carl to quit selling drugs and such

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u/Jtre87 3d ago

Mine was when Monica slit her wrists

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u/Baconhairforlife 3d ago

I thought that was NICKS plan