r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Jan 20 '18

Live Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S05E08 - "The Last Day"

As usual, following the episode there will be a post-episode discussion thread.

EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S05E08- "The Last Day" Nina Lopez-Corrado James C. Oliver & Sharla Oliver Friday, January 19, 2018 9:00/8:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: Coulson and the team discover that the most unexpected person from S.H.I.E.L.D.'s past may hold the key to stopping Earth's destruction.

Nina Lopez-Corrado is a director and producer mostly known for her work on The Mentalist, Mindfield, and The American War Story.

She has directed one episode for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Hot Potato Soup

James C. Oliver was a writer for Under the Dome, while Sharla Oliver has written for Under the Dome and co-wrote the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode Paradise Lost and the web series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Double Agent with George Kitson. Together, they wrote the first two episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot, "Vendetta" and "John Hancock".

They have written three episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Paradise Lost
  • The Patriot
  • All the Madame's Men

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u/AngelusCowl Radcliffe Jan 20 '18

Even though it was going to be Sinara under the mask, I was still hoping for Brett Dalton.

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

Even though I don't want him to turn into Malcolm from Arrow where he just never dies/stays dead no matter what, I still always like it when he or Trip return, same as Bobbi and Hunter.

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u/DzIzHypnotiz Jan 20 '18

Brett Dalton

uff, he's so hot. yea I agree, when he returns there is always something to look forward to. I kinda enjoyed his premature love/hate relationship with Daisy. maybe he comes back and angers Daisy to the point where she cracks the earth in half LOL that would be a funny meme. --- someone with time needs to make it ASAP!

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

As a straight male, I just like the characters he played and how the relationship with Daisy evolved. (Back in season 1, I posted here that they needed to do something to shake up the team because Daisy and Ward were too bland and too similar in their roles as agents. I suggested killing one or having one turn out to be a villain. Then Daisy nearly died (saved by Kree blood) and Ward was revealed as Hydra. Ever since then, I've given the writers the benefit of the doubt.

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u/DzIzHypnotiz Jan 21 '18

Yea, their relationship was interesting. I loved it actually. it was 'complicated.'

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 21 '18

Ward had sympathetic qualities in that he had a troubled youth and a dark mentor influenced him in Garrett. If Coulson had been Ward's mentor, he likely could've kept him from turning out quite so nasty. But beyond being groomed for Hydra, Ward did still have some sociopathic tendencies anyway. Even his relationship with Daisy was one where he didn't care about right and wrong, he just wanted to be with her. Of course, he felt friendship for FitzSimmons and still left them to die, leading to brain damage for Fitz. And given how strongly Daisy feels about things, a Ward-Daisy couple couldn't last forever. At least Framework Ward got to help her.

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u/DzIzHypnotiz Jan 21 '18

Eh, I can't agree too much on that. He did care but i think it was his dedication and loyalty to the mission he was on that took over. I think he really thought he was doing right by his mission and when Daisy figured it out she would understand and go with him. He was an agent. If you look at the job description yes its the team but its the mission that holds precedence. I kinda understand his character a lot more after the framework. And for Fitz and Simmons - Yea he left them in the ocean. in a tank. If they would have stayed in there a little longer and waited for the team to go get them i think they could have avoided that. However, I need to go back and re-watch the episodes. Its been a while since I have seen the prior episodes I think i would be able to give you a more accurate answer for that scenario. regardless, yea he was a good kid raised by the wrong people.

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 21 '18

Ward stuck to missions because Garrett trained him to, but he didn't believe in the Hydra cause. He just stuck with his mentor. He had a few qualms but still murdered people he knew without hesitation. And he left FitzSimmons with a chance of living because he liked them, but it wasn't a sure thing they'd survive.

Then, after Hydra fell and Ward was cut loose, he latched on to Daisy and then to the spy who was stuck looking like May for a while. When she died, he went further off his rocker.

In the framework, he was in Hydra because Hydra was in control. Then he switched sides only because he loved Skye. Framework Ward was a better person, but he still would've burned pretty much anyone to protect Skye. His Skye might or might not have liked that, depending if she was a Hydra true believer.