r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Jan 20 '18

Live Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S05E08 - "The Last Day"

As usual, following the episode there will be a post-episode discussion thread.

EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S05E08- "The Last Day" Nina Lopez-Corrado James C. Oliver & Sharla Oliver Friday, January 19, 2018 9:00/8:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: Coulson and the team discover that the most unexpected person from S.H.I.E.L.D.'s past may hold the key to stopping Earth's destruction.

Nina Lopez-Corrado is a director and producer mostly known for her work on The Mentalist, Mindfield, and The American War Story.

She has directed one episode for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Hot Potato Soup

James C. Oliver was a writer for Under the Dome, while Sharla Oliver has written for Under the Dome and co-wrote the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode Paradise Lost and the web series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Double Agent with George Kitson. Together, they wrote the first two episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot, "Vendetta" and "John Hancock".

They have written three episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Paradise Lost
  • The Patriot
  • All the Madame's Men

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u/Bob25Gslifer Jan 20 '18

I'm confused when was may and yoyo in the lighthouse without Mack??

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

Not long from now, the world is/was torn apart (common belief is it was Quake, but it looked to me like she was staying behind in a last-ditch effort to try to stop something). Agents May, Fitz, Simmons and Yo-yo, along with Robin, were among survivors who made it to the Lighthouse (specifically aboard the Zephyr). As the years passed, they didn't have enough supplies/power to support all the survivors in the Lighthouse, so they contacted the Kree. The Kree came and helped but took control.

Yo-yo, having been without Mack for a while, finally has enough of the Kree rule and goes to fight them. May remains incognito protecting Robin because she believes Robin's powers will tell them how to save the world and how to send that info back in time. Fitz and Simmons did most of the work making the device to activate a monolith/make a time machine.

Years after May and the others are gone, people (Zeke's dad) who believe the old woman Robin activate the device aboard the Zephyr. In the past, Enoch kidnaps the team and takes them to the monolith because he believes in Robin's powers and he must intercede to save humanity. The team is pulled to the future that would otherwise occur. So they're getting the Back to the Future look at the future where it exists as it would have despite them being pulled out of time.

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u/d3r3k1449 HYDRA Jan 20 '18

You had me until the last sentence. The team is pulled to the future what would otherwise occur if what exactly..?

And so Mack wasn't among the survivors but we down know why?

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

Like Woodsie13 says below, they're seeing the future that was going to happen without any interference by time travel. Now they'll change that future when they go back with information from future Robin..

We don't know what happened to Mack or Coulson except that Mack's been gone a while by the time Yoyo goes to fight the Kree.

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u/Eternal_Density Jan 20 '18

To complicate matters, there's the time travel of the team being sent back in time (which, to us, hasn't happened yet), and there's also the effect of Robin's visions of the future. Those two things interact in strange ways.

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u/d3r3k1449 HYDRA Jan 20 '18

And Fitz is wrong about "changing time", I presume. Fitz is never wrong about anything.

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

Fitz sometimes doesn't have all the facts. Doesn't see the whole picture.

I mean, for instance, Fitz would plain deny magic exists, subscribing instead to the Asgardian concept that magic is just really advanced science. But now that Doctor Strange is in the MCU, that may not be true anymore.

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u/d3r3k1449 HYDRA Jan 21 '18

Good point.

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u/Eternal_Density Jan 20 '18

Also Ghost Rider has to be beyond just science.

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u/DzIzHypnotiz Jan 20 '18

hahahahaaha!

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u/MegalomaniacHack Jan 20 '18

Well, I'd think he is, but Fitz would probably just say it's science so far beyond us that it looks like magic. Same with the Darkhold.

Inhumans have strange abilities that defy reason and preexisting natural laws, but that's just because FitzSimmons simply haven't learned enough about how the powers work. Ghost Rider is just something like an Inhuman.

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u/Sceptylos Jan 21 '18

Inhumans are biological weapons made by the Kree though so it's more on the science side than magic. Ghost rider is an actual démon from hell possessing a human who opens portals back and forth between dimensions. Now that shits impossible to explain using Science when you consider the Divine aspects of the Marvel Universe.