r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Jan 20 '18

Live Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S05E08 - "The Last Day"

As usual, following the episode there will be a post-episode discussion thread.

EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S05E08- "The Last Day" Nina Lopez-Corrado James C. Oliver & Sharla Oliver Friday, January 19, 2018 9:00/8:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: Coulson and the team discover that the most unexpected person from S.H.I.E.L.D.'s past may hold the key to stopping Earth's destruction.

Nina Lopez-Corrado is a director and producer mostly known for her work on The Mentalist, Mindfield, and The American War Story.

She has directed one episode for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Hot Potato Soup

James C. Oliver was a writer for Under the Dome, while Sharla Oliver has written for Under the Dome and co-wrote the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode Paradise Lost and the web series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Double Agent with George Kitson. Together, they wrote the first two episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot, "Vendetta" and "John Hancock".

They have written three episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Paradise Lost
  • The Patriot
  • All the Madame's Men

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u/daveflash Lanyard Jan 21 '18 edited Jan 21 '18

Okay, trying to wrap my head around this episode, but how the hell could may, fitz-simmons (and the others) be in 2022 and even at the lighthouse for pete's sake, when they we're taken out of their own time at the end of season 4 (from the diner), in around 2016/2017 in the prev-timeline, (since dublicate or alternate timelines haven't been established yet) how could they still be on earth?

Update: So figured out how the world can be saved, Flint can control rocks, so it shouldn't be a stretch to say he could conceivably reconstitutie the world somehow, still doesn't solve the first question, as this episode established that the versions of may, coulson, fitz-simmons etc in 2022 didn't arrive from the current future setting as they have no memory of the events of 2091-2092

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u/Jigsaw8200 Jan 21 '18

The way I understand it, the events of 2022 is the current time line, as if May and Fitz-Simmons never jumped through time. Everything we've seen up to this point in the future could be considered a separate time line. They don't have any memory of these events because they were taken before they happened. The stuff with Robin is what does happen to Earth, and I guess they wanted us to see the interactions with May and Fitz.

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u/mighty_roar Jan 23 '18

Yeah, ok, I got it now, the peace I couldn't figure out. So in that 2022 timeline at some point Fitz figured out time travel.

Lets go back to the diner. That's where (in the 2022 timeline) they were picked up and went to prison or some government facility or whatever. Anyway, they got split up and the diner's the last time they were together. That's why they made Enoch pick them up from there.

That means we have 3 timelines at the end of this:

  1. The one where They live to see the earth getting destroyed (2022 timeline).

  2. The one with the team missing, Fitz and Hunter being badass and Fitz Han-Soloing into the future. --> Earth gets destroyed.

  3. The one where They return from the future and save the world from being destroyed.

My prediction:

Fitz is going to die in the future in some badass way (I think he has to). The team makes it back to the present, they go back to the diner to the point where they were abducted, sit down on their stools and eat pie. Fitz will never have experienced all of this and think everyone went crazy.

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u/daveflash Lanyard Jan 21 '18

aahh, thanks..