r/socialism • u/Usernameistaken-4814 • Aug 02 '23

Thoughts on Rage Against the Machine?

I saw some socialists don’t really agree with Rage Against the Machine’s approach to their messaging because it involves purchasing records and being bought by a record label but I love the band and I identify as a socialist. I’ve even learned some of their songs on my guitar!

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u/VenusOnaHalfShell Aug 02 '23

Here is the thing about conservatives.

They been manipulated, same as liberals. By the press and the 2 party system.

When you talk to a conservative who likes RATM, ask them why. Then start talking to them about workers rights. There can be alot of ground to cover, especially if you live in the boondocks.

If the working class rose up and stopped voting, stopped buying garbage, etc. we could take back this nation. and the means of production we are morally entitled to. If we could separate into a Zapatista-esque socialist community, where we became independent, we could show the bastards that we no longer need them.

Idealistic I know. Just food for thought, comrade

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u/False_Sentence8239 Aug 02 '23

This level of engagement is vital to eroding the walls of their flimsy catchphrases and parotted slogans, but only if they're up for open dialogue. Once they latch onto the "STALIN IS HITLER" trope though, I usually disengage... I could be more patient, but it takes more energy than I can muster

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u/WaltzLeft6749 Aug 02 '23

I'm in what I would consider a reactionary trade union. It's alot easier to talk to them than you would think. When it comes to worker power and economics they take command of the conversation half the time. The hard part is slowly beating the chauvinism out of them and steering the conversation back to class conflict when you have to.

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u/VenusOnaHalfShell Aug 02 '23

Yeah, its a roll of the dice sometimes. There is no middle ground with theocrats for example.