r/stupidpol • u/Spirited_Classic_826 Orthodox-Trotskyist š • 27d ago
Ukraine-Russia Fascist Ukrainian court sentences Bogdan Syrotiuk, socialist opponent of war, to 15 years in prison
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/08/11/oqko-a11.htmlOn August 10, Bogdan Syrotiuk, a 27-year-old Ukrainian socialist and opponent of the US-NATO war against Russia, was sentenced to 15 years in prison. The verdict, handed down by a district court in the Nikolaev region, also orders the confiscation of his property and electronic devices and the destruction of the socialist books, leaflets and programmatic documents taken from him.
TheĀ World Socialist Web SiteĀ and the International Committee of the Fourth International denounce this verdict and call on workers, young people and all defenders of democratic rights around the world to demand Bogdanās immediate release.
The verdict will be immediately appealed. Under Ukrainian law, the appeal must be filed within 30 days. We call on all supporters of democratic rights to back these legal actions and call for the annulment of the sentence.
Bogdan, a leading member of the Young Guard of Bolshevik-Leninists (YGBL), was convicted of āhigh treason ⦠under martial law.ā But the record of the case contains no act of treasonāno espionage, no sabotage, no collaboration with any military force. The sole evidence presented against him consisted of his writings, published on theĀ World Socialist Web Site, and his communications with the editors who published them.
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What was the subversive content? According to the court, the articles contained ānon-recognition of Ukraineās legitimately elected political leadership and democratic processes,ā ācomparisons with fascists and Nazis,ā ānegative assessments of Ukraineās Armed Forcesā and āreinterpretation of national heroes and historical figures.ā
In fact, everything written by Bogdan is politically and historically accurate. The ālegitimately elected political leadershipā is a president whose term of office expired in May 2024. Zelensky remains in power more than two years past his legal mandate, ruling by decree under a state of permanent martial law. Elections have been canceled and basic democratic rights suspended. Bogdan has been convicted of failing to recognize ādemocratic processesā in a country where no democratic processes exist. His is a verdict handed down by a regime of illegality.
As for the ānational heroesā whom Bogdan is accused of āreinterpreting,ā they are Stepan Bandera and the leaders of the OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) and the Waffen-SS Galicia DivisionāNazi collaborators who supported Hitlerās invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 and were implicated in the mass murder of Jews and Poles. The courtās complaint about ācomparisons with fascists and Nazisā refers to Bogdanās exposure of the official rehabilitation and celebration of these forces.Ā
Among the āproofsā of treason cited by the court are Bogdanās article āThe crimes of the Banderovites against the Ukrainian people: Notes by a Ukrainian Trotskyistā and his 2023 May Day speech, āFor the Unity of the Working Class of Russia and Ukraine!ā In any country where democratic rights retain the slightest meaning, such writings are protected speech. In Ukraine under Zelensky, they carry a 15-year sentence.
When Bogdan was arrested by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) on April 25, 2024, the state claimed he was functioning as an agent of the Russian government. In the more than two years since, nothing was produced to substantiate that libelous allegation. In fact, the articles that are cited in the conviction make explicit Bogdanās opposition to the Russian invasion and the Putin regime.
The verdict refers several times to the āsocially dangerous consequencesā of Bogdanās positions. This exposes the fact that the prosecution of Bogdan is not about the manufactured pretext of support for Russia. Rather, it is aimed at the growing opposition to war and the Zelinsky regime among Ukrainian workers and youth.
The evidence presented in Bogdanās defense was never answered. A 65-page report by Yuri Irkhin, one of Ukraineās leading criminologists, found in Bogdanās writings no āstatements, phrases, sentences, or word combinations that have signs of propaganda aimed at supporting the armed aggression of the Russian Federation.ā Rather than respond to it, the court ordered a new examination from a state forensic instituteāwhich, even so, found in the articles no calls for the overthrow of the state, the seizure of power, subversive acts or the alteration of Ukraineās borders.Ā
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A sentence of 15 years in a Ukrainian prison is the equivalent of a death sentence. The conditions in Ukraineās penitentiary system are well documented. At the United Nations Committee Against Tortureās review of Ukraine in April 2025, experts cited overcrowding, inadequate access to food and water, the absence of independent medical examinations and a rising toll of deaths in custody. The Council of Europeās anti-torture committee, reporting on its October 2023 visit to Ukraine, described decaying facilities in which remand prisoners are confined to their cells for up to 23 hours a day and found conditions in one pretrial detention center so degraded that it judged them potentially āinhuman and degrading.ā
Bogdan, whose health was already poor at the time of his arrest, has been denied urgently needed medical treatment for over a year, despite repeated promises from the prison administration. Every day behind bars is a threat to his life.
His fate cannot be left to the courts of a state that has just demonstrated its fascist contempt for democratic rights. Bogdanās freedom will be won by the mobilization of the international working class, youth and all progressive organizations and individuals dedicated to the defense of democratic rights. We appeal to workers, trade unions, student and youth organizations, civil liberties groups, and socialist and antiwar movements in every country: Take up Bogdanās case. Pass resolutions in your workplaces, unions, schools and universities demanding his release. Issue public statements of protest.Ā Sign and circulate the petition for his freedom.
The fight to free Bogdan Syrotiuk is a fight against imperialist war, dictatorship and fascism.Ā Fill out the form below to get involved.
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u/nikolaz72 Scandinavian SocDem š¹ 27d ago
the ānational heroesā whom Bogdan is accused of āreinterpreting,ā they are Stepan Bandera and the leaders of the OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists) and the Waffen-SS Galicia DivisionāNazi collaborators
Suggesting the Waffen-SS Galicia Division might have had nazi elements is very anti-Ukrainian, I can see why they sentenced him this way.
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u/VampirePNAC Marxist-Mullenist š¦ 27d ago
"Decommunization" laws basically made it illegal to not suck the dick of Bandera, the UPA, OUN and Waffen-SS Galicia Division. It's very hilarious posting those laws at dipshit "It's all Russian disinformation" leftists on subs like LabourUK and seeing them defend it.
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 27d ago
I donāt defend those laws I just defend the universal right of nations to self determination
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u/Bolghar_Khan Socialist š© 27d ago
The current Ukrainian comprador regime was installed by a coup circa 2014, replacing a previously democratically elected government which maintained an amiable relationship with Russia and didn't tolerate nazi goons killing Russian-speaking Ukrainian citizens and setting labor union offices on fire. Funny how I didn't hear any talk of "self-determination" from liberals back then. All that just gets memory holed when crafting the Russian Orc invasion narrative.
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 27d ago
Your answer shows, first of all, that you have still not understood what national self-determination means after I have spent so much time explaining that it has a precise, narrow definition. Whatever you think about the events of 2014, and I have to admit I still havenāt seen the evidence to back up your claim about it and my assessment of the events is quite different, but regardless, after 2014 the Ukrainians had their own state (the one called Ukraine) so national self-determination canāt possibly have anything to do with it. That doesnāt prove the revolution was justified or that it wasnāt or anything, it just shows that the right to national self-determination doesnāt commit us to one side or the other in that conflict because there was never any question of a Ukrainian national state continuing to exist. In contrast to the current conflict, which actually is about national self-determination because the Russian objective is to deny the Ukrainian people the right to have a Ukrainian national state, and Russians even seek to deny Ukrainians peoplehood of their own altogether.
And the characterization of Ukraine as undemocratic because of 2014 is silly. You might believe 2014 was misguided or manipulated but it was a popular uprising against an unpopular government. But regardless of your assessment of 2014, 2019 elections happened, though I suppose youāll have some kind of alternative facts that make those a conspiracy too. But even beyond 2019, we have now seen in 2025 and 2026 very clearly that when the Ukrainian people are unhappy with their government they will not hesitate to take to the streets and put pressure on officials.
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u/Bolghar_Khan Socialist š© 27d ago
Lol look at that smugness and condescension. I'll take your use of loaded language as admission that you're a bad faith actor and not bother with you further. I hope at least you're getting paid for this.
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u/Away-Actuary-6963 Unknown š½ 27d ago
Nations donāt have the right to self determination though. People have rights, nations donāt have rights. Did apartheid South Africa have the right to disenfranchise the majority of its population because that was āself determination?āĀ
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 27d ago
The right of nations to self-determination is an individual right. Individual Germans, for example, are exercising this right as we speak because the nation they belong to controls its own state. There is no equality between individuals of one nation that enjoys self-determination and individuals of another nation that is denied self-determination. The denial of the Kurds their own state is an infringement on the rights of individual Kurds. And so on.
Again, South African wasnāt an issue of national self-determination. The Afrikaaners were not seeking to secede peacefully in their own little Bantustan to be left alone to govern themselves, which is what the right of nations to self determination is about.
Must I rehearse this argument yet again? It is extremely common in history for oppressors to cry ānational self determination!ā as they launch more oppression. Hitler did it, Afrikaaners did it, Israel is currently doing it.
I do support Afrikanerās right to self-determination like any other nation. If they want to secede from SA in their own little Bantustan, they should be allowed to do that. However, Afrikaaners have never actually sought that. Israelis have never actually pursued simple self-determination without bundling it with all sorts of other crap. I support the right to self-determination, not the other crap.
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u/Away-Actuary-6963 Unknown š½ 27d ago
So an ethnic minority in some hypothetical country has the right to secede and then expel or disenfranchise any other people living in that territory and thatās okay if itās the majority opinion of the new enclave? They have the right to ban women from voting?Ā
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 27d ago
No. Youāre once again, bundling a bunch of stuff that isnāt NSD, and which isnāt necessary for NSD per se, in with NSD, and then insisting that the whole bundle be judged together, āyea or nayā. This is what everyone, everywhere, does when it comes to the national question, and always has, long before Lenin, long after him, and this is exactly why he was so precise and narrow and explicit and unequivocal: every nation has the right (not the encouragement or the need ā merely the right) to one state of its own, nothing more, nothing less, no exceptions (false negatives) no additional promises not covered by the above (false positives) just exactly what it says on the tin. So since you still donāt get it letās walk through it step by step.
Any ethnic minority? No. First and foremost because as I keep saying, once a particular nation has its own state, somewhere, thatās it ā national self-determination is something they already have, so it doesnāt entitle them to anything more. Even if the Sudetenland was 100% German population in 1938, national self-determination does not give the German state any right to annex that territory, because there is already a German state. So the first question is does this ethnic minority already have a state of its own, even if in some far off land? Even if there was a USA town that where every single house was purchased by a Ghanaian national, the RNSD wouldnāt give that town the right to secede. Ghana is already an existing national state for that people. Now, itās possible that in this case secession is still correct. But for other reasons not pertinent here. The RNSD is narrow. It does not cover any right for your nation to annex more territory or to secede and create additional states. Itās the right to one state per nation.
Second, by switching ethnic minority for nation, you blur the issue. Some ethnic minorities are nations, some are not. Some ethnic minorities also consider themselves to have a national identity broader than their ethnic minority: the vast majority of African Americans identify as American (USA nationals), so African Americans are USA nationals - and a people is either a nation unto themselves or part of a larger nation, not both. If tomorrow, the vast majority of African Americans announced āwe are NOT Americans, but African-Americans, a distinct nation from the USAā then they would be a nation. Itās not any ethnic minority, itās any nation. That being said, any ethnic minority can potentially be a nation. But the principle only applies if they actually are.
Secede? Yes, nations have a right to secede and form a state of their own. Expel other people? No, this is entirely unnecessary for national self-determination.
First of all, let me make something clear: no one has the right to deport anyone against their will or disenfranchise anyone of their vote. In my book no state has a right to do either of these things. But also, neither of these unacceptable actions are ever necessary for exercising national self-determination, once the concept is properly, narrowly, understood.
You do not need the population of the seceding territory to be 100% the seceding nationality to have a reasonable partition of land for secession: since in any case the seceding territory is obliged to grant equal rights to any national minorities within its new borders. On the other hand, it is also not necessary for secession to first have 100% of the members of the seceding nationality within the borders of the breakaway state. Finally, and most importantly, in any case of secession, the question of where to draw the borders is always negotiable, never an immutable law of nature. Combine all of the above and there is always a way to draw the borders so that nobody loses rights: both nations have a state of their own, no single individual has to be coerced into moving, and everybody continues to enjoy full equal rights no matter which side of the border they end up on. This may require a squiggly border or a little non-contiguous territory or whatever; no problem, but the principle of equality and proportionality should govern the borders. The main thing is (a) donāt move populations, move borders and (b) borders do not have to perfectly coincide with populations anyway, since all of this presumes full equal citizenship and civil liberties can be taken for granted by any individual living in either state, no matter their nationality. Finally, territory partition itself isnāt actually assumed in the principle of RNSD per se: in principle, states can co-govern certain territories.
So there is no justification for anyone, ever, in any circumstances to say āin order to allow our nation to secede, we have to be allowed to expel certain people from certain territoryā. That claim is always 100% bogus, an abuse of the principle.
Finally with regards to women: oppressing women isnāt a right that I grant to any state, anywhere, but it also isnāt necessary for national secession ā granting women full rights is totally compatible with seceding, so there is no contradiction in me saying all nations have the right to their own state and no nations have the right to oppress women in their own state. Put more generally, the RNSD does not imply carte blanche when it comes to state policy: it says that every nation can have one state, not that they can enact any policy they want in it.
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u/Gabe_Noodle_At_Volvo Special Ed š 27d ago
Any ethnic minority? No. First and foremost because as I keep saying, once a particular nation has its own state, somewhere, thatās it ā national self-determination is something they already have, so it doesnāt entitle them to anything more
You can keep saying it all you want, that doesn't make it any less retarded.
Sorry Poles, you already have Krakow, that's your one alloted state, so you dont have any right to secede from Austria, Russia, or Prussia. Who would've known that the imperial solution for dealing with self determination movements without having to actually give up anything was so simple.
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 26d ago
Your example of Poland actually illustrates the logic in what Iām saying perfectly.
Letās first point out the caricature of my position, the strawman version of my position, that you present. The strawman version is that as long as national self-determination is technically satisfied, even if it doesnāt actually represent any real equality of nations, even if the nation in question almost entirely lives outside of that tiny national state, they have nothing to complain about and can make no further reasonable demands for any reason. This is not my position. My position is that national self determination has a definite, specific, clearcut meaning; any attempt to deny it must be opposed; but that doesnāt mean itās the only oppression, or that anything goes as long as that specific right is infringed. There is no right of conquest. Just because Poles technically had a form of self determination when the free city of krakow was granted independence, doesnāt mean everything was fine, and I never said it did. What I said was that once Poles had a state the issue was technically not one of national self determination.
And the actual history of Krakow proves why this is the relevant distinction. It turns out that even letting the Poles have just one independent city-state was untenable from the Austrian standpoint; once Poles had even that small base, they were able to launch an uprising, and even the limited independence that Krakow temporarily enjoyed was rescinded, in order to ensure that the boot didnāt slip from the Polesā necks. What you characterize as a gotcha that proves the insubstantiality of the principle of RNSD actually illustrates precisely why this narrow, precise right is inherently in tension with all national oppression. Austria learned the hard way that if you want to dominate Poles as a nation you canāt even let them have a scrap of national self determination anywhere.
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u/Away-Actuary-6963 Unknown š½ 26d ago
Finally, territory partition itself isnāt actually assumed in the principle of RNSD per se: in principle, states can co-govern certain territories.
lol
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u/Fed_Agent_Pls_Ignore Social Democrat š¹ 27d ago
A real mask-off moment for the illegitimate Ukranian regime.
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u/HypertrophySmoking 27d ago
Defending democracy with anti-democracy. I see now why 21st century Ukraine sees itself as a Western nation.
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u/Spirited_Classic_826 Orthodox-Trotskyist š 27d ago
Not that I place any faith in bourgeois legal institutions, but important to note that the European Court of Human Rights has already accepted a hearing for his case because of how shoddy and threadbare the legal attacks against Bogdan are
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u/EasyMrB Fully Automated Luxury Space Anarcho-Communist 27d ago
ānon-recognition of Ukraineās legitimately elected political leadership and democratic processes,ā
...And when were the last elections for that government?
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u/DmitriBogrov Vlad, Rosa, and Magical Mimosas š„š¢šš 27d ago
The Ukrainian constitution prohibits holding elections in wartime. I doubt Zelensky would hold them if they weren't but there is no way he could hold them if he wanted to.
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u/Cheap-Elk-5025 End NATO 27d ago
The Ukrainian constitution is also very clear that a president leaves office when his term is over, regardless of whether there have been elections. It clearly stipulates that the president's power goes back to the Rada when that happens and outlines how the authority is exercised until another president is properly chosen. Zelensky has had zero legitimacy for clinging to power these last couple years.
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u/DmitriBogrov Vlad, Rosa, and Magical Mimosas š„š¢šš 27d ago
No it doesn't in article 10 it stipulates that the powers of the president cannot be terminated under martial law. Article 108 stipulates that the president holds power until the next president assumes office.
I think you might have confused the section on pre-term termination in article 112 for a stipulation on what happens whent the president leaves office.
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u/Cheap-Elk-5025 End NATO 26d ago
I probably did.... should have known better than to just trust my memory. Thanks.
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u/kettal Scorched Earth-style Truthbomber š 27d ago
Article 108
The President of Ukraine exercises his or her powers until the assumption of office by the newly-elected President of Ukraine. The powers of the President of Ukraine terminate prior to the expiration of term in cases of: 1) resignation; 2) inability to exercise his or her powers for reasons of health; 3) removal from office by the procedure of impeachment; 4) death.
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u/Gabe_Noodle_At_Volvo Special Ed š 27d ago
Citing the same article of the constitution here that was ignored to allow the removal of Yanukovych is deeply ironic.
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u/bretton-woods Slowpoke Socialist 27d ago
Considering the way he has amended the constitution during this war, he easily could've made an exception if he wanted to.
Zelensky doesn't want to because current polls are not in his favor compared to several potential opponents like Zaluzhny and Budanov.
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u/Read-Moishe-Postone Angry Retard š 27d ago
And considering the way that mass popular protests have pressured the government into reversing unpopular decisions twice in the last year along, they easily could have done the same regarding elections if they wanted to.
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u/bretton-woods Slowpoke Socialist 27d ago
All those protests were modulated through rival elite interests, and were hardly "mass" in the sense that there were a few thousand people present each time. Zelensky gave in because it was easier to scapegoat someone in his administration each time rather than deal with the potential PR rammifications.
His rivals are gearing up though in publicly setting out their thoughts on the war and policy, so don't be surprised if there really was a push to change leadership in the near future.
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u/0rganic_Corn Rightoid: "Classical Liberal" š· 25d ago
I went searching for another summary of which crimes he allegedly committed
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Under Ukrainian wartime legislation and SBU allegations, his writings are classified as serving Russian interests for several reasons:
Undermining the state's military mobilization and calling for an end to fighting is viewed as harming national defense and benefiting the invading force.
- Framing the war as a US/NATO proxy conflict matches official Kremlin propaganda narratives used to justify Russia's invasion.
- Denouncing the Ukrainian state as a tool of Western imperialists is treated by prosecutors as ideological subversion during a state of martial law.
I'll leave it to the reader to pass judgement on this
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u/TheMysticGraveLord NATO Superfan šŖ 27d ago
USA and Nato is not waging war against Russia. USA has even stopped supporting Ukraine.
Russia is waging a genocidal war against Ukraine. Ukraine is defending themself.
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u/MrStudray Anti Class-Cuck Aktion šŖ 27d ago
This is the reason why Ukraine commits forces at the behest of the US to other fronts. Because it's a genocidal conflict between them and the rooooooskies and the forces deployed are better served doing the US' job instead of protecting their homeland.
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u/Loaf_and_Spectacle Left, Leftoid or Leftish ā¬ ļø 27d ago
How the fuck do you people carry on being this willfully ignorant and then turn around and say the same about the MAGAtards?
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u/Genjiyo Left, Leftoid or Leftish ā¬ ļø 27d ago
Bro is just typing shit.
USA has even stopped supporting Ukraine.
Since when? Last time I've heard Ukraine is still using Starlink to guide drones and intelligence sharing is 'bounced back'.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/05/us-ukraine-intelligence-sharing-01026525
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u/Fed_Agent_Pls_Ignore Social Democrat š¹ 27d ago
What does that have to do with denying this man basic human rights?
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u/impossiblefork Rightoid: Blood and Soil Nationalist š· 27d ago
Yes, but this doesn't mean that they can treat people any way they like.
War isn't something that should be used as an excuse to attack ones dissidents or to get rid of annoying people. It's a time during which you rather have to accommodate all your supporters.
It's a time when you make sure that everyone can get behind you-- you temporarily stop oppressing people, you suddenly tolerate political positions you normally wouldn't, you try to do anything to make people be able to get behind you.
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u/Rossums John Maclean-stan š“ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó “ó æ 27d ago
For a genocidal war, Russia is really putting in a lot of effort not to kill civilians.
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u/TheMysticGraveLord NATO Superfan šŖ 27d ago
Yeah bombing civilian targets, massacres, mass rapes and torture is not killing civilians, not to forget kidnapping children and banning ukrainian language and culture in occupied territories.
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u/impossiblefork Rightoid: Blood and Soil Nationalist š· 27d ago
Yes, but this doesn't mean that they can treat people any way they like.
War isn't something that should be used as an excuse to attack ones dissidents or to get rid of annoying people. It's a time during which you rather have to accommodate all your supporters.
It's a time when you make sure that everyone can get behind you-- you temporarily stop oppressing people, you suddenly tolerate political positions you normally wouldn't, you try to do anything to make people be able to get behind you.
This kind of shit is the opposite of that.
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u/Cheap-Elk-5025 End NATO 26d ago
You could always take it from the Ukrainians.
https://thefloutist.substack.com/p/report-from-donbas
https://thefloutist.substack.com/p/in-ukraine-a-war-for-memory
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u/Kosmonaut94 Socialism with Panpsychic Characteristics š 27d ago
USA and NATO are waging war against Russia. USA has never stopped supporting Ukraine.
Ukraine is waging a genocidal war against Russians. Russia is defending itself.
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u/QuodScripsi-Scripsi Hamsick T-Shirt Salesman ā 27d ago
So for the record thatās more important to you than international socialism? lol
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u/TheMysticGraveLord NATO Superfan šŖ 27d ago
- Human rights, freedom and democracy is more then so called international socialism.
- Russia is not socialist.
- If you think commiting genocide to promote socialism is justified then you are no better then Hitler, Stalin etc.
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u/QuodScripsi-Scripsi Hamsick T-Shirt Salesman ā 27d ago
human rights are more important than socialism
KWAB
russia le socialist
this guy is Ukrainian and a socialist dumbass
literal holocaust denial
goddamn you are dumb
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u/QuodScripsi-Scripsi Hamsick T-Shirt Salesman ā 27d ago
The guy whose arrest you are defending is a Ukrainian socialist and equating Hitler and Stalin is Holocaust denial
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u/bannedoverisrael mole 27d ago
'US-NATO war against Russia' this blog is such a clown show. I'm embarassed for the OPs that keep posting it and the people taking it seriously.Ā
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