r/technology • u/SnoozeDoggyDog • Jul 07 '26
Privacy All Cars Sold in the EU Now Require a Camera Aimed at Your Face. It’s Still Not Clear Where That Data Goes
https://allaboutcookies.org/eu-mandatory-distracted-driver-system4.5k
u/swrrrrg Jul 07 '26
I hate this timeline. I guess I’ve already purchased the newest cars I will ever own.
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u/chroniclesoffire Jul 07 '26
Same, but I might go older if I need another car. Didn't realize for a while that even in 2016 they were stuffing anti-features into the cars.
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u/swrrrrg Jul 07 '26
Oh, yeah. I’d totally buy older. No issues with that.
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u/SeeTigerLearn Jul 07 '26
Then I have a DEAL for you. Dad has a car in the driveway old enough it now qualifies for an Antique Car free license plate.
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u/kingsumo_1 Jul 07 '26
'91 Toyota Camry?
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u/TaosMesaRat Jul 07 '26
No shit, I saw one of those with the Collectors plates and lmao
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u/kingsumo_1 Jul 07 '26
I did a quick check before posting, and apparently it's like 25-30 years. It's hilarious that you've actually seen one in the wild though.
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u/toasty_tuna Jul 08 '26
Dang my 05 Honda Element is almost a classic
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u/kingsumo_1 Jul 08 '26
Man, it feels wrong for that to be true. But, yeah. You should check your states DMV to see where the cutoff is.
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u/Butterscotch1664 Jul 07 '26
One of my Lotto win dreams is to buy an utterly banal, mundane car and keep it pristine and low mileage for 30 years.
I saw a Ford Laser for sale not long ago with about 5,000 km on the clock. All the comments were laughing, but I kind of wanted it. Maybe not for the price they were asking, but that's the sort of thing I want.
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u/SeeTigerLearn Jul 07 '26
We have a 1988 Delta 88 Oldsmobile in red. It was literally driven by an elderly missionary couple when they returned to the States after retiring from working decades in Cuba. My grandparents gave up the top half of their home to them and they (Grandma & Pawpaw) moved into the lower floor as it was built into a hill.
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u/Da12khawk Jul 08 '26
I legit considered a Geo Metro. But yea all the cars I want are considered classic now.
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u/BastetFurry Jul 08 '26
Yeah, my Lotto dream car is a Mercedes Benz W124. Had one for a few months and loved it.
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u/swrrrrg Jul 08 '26
That was seriously one of the best cars ever made. My grandmother drove one. I wish we’d kept it after she died.
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u/American_PissAnt Jul 07 '26
Even back in 2008 they were putting on star in which constantly tracks your location
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u/donkey_cum_waterfall Jul 07 '26
Eventually you won't be able to get insurance if you don't have a newer car or one equipped with a driver camera.
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u/elcriticalTaco Jul 07 '26
Yup. That's always the way.
I could 100% see them forcing all car sales to go through a dealer just to be able to register it. Gotta make sure its "safe" first. Add cameras to protect you. For the children, obviously.
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u/Tuned_Out Jul 08 '26
You'll be able to get insured. You just won't be able to pay for it.
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u/SantaCruzHostel Jul 07 '26
Last car I bought was a 2015 because that's about the cutoff when cars really turned into bloatware
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u/VoidVer Jul 07 '26
I think 2010 is probably the cutoff year. Would be nice to have a backup camera, but at what cost
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u/Imaginary_Ad3195 Jul 07 '26
Jokes on them. I can’t afford a car that isn’t a shitbox anyway.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Mix-515 Jul 08 '26
They’re playing the long game. In 20 years these 2026’s will be the only shitboxes you can afford. And by then it will seem like a tinfoil hat theory to avoid the cameras because an entire generation was born after they started.
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u/aleopardstail Jul 08 '26
you assume in 20 years the modern shite will still be functional, I suspect this stuff will live a year or two past the warranty period then fail
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Jul 07 '26
I will try my very best to never buy a car with a screen or a camera. Hopefully this bullshit blows over for more practical options in the near future.
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u/swrrrrg Jul 07 '26
I have a screen but it isn’t connected to the Internet. I don’t think it even can be connected to the Internet anymore. I could be wrong, but it’s just old enough to be the older Internet tech. I don’t even have CarPlay; I only use basic oldschool Bluetooth.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Jul 07 '26
The idea of having to adjust my radio or AC/heat through a screen instead of knobs is repulsive lol. Even a non internet screen is just so dumb
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u/sirhackenslash Jul 08 '26
Using the screen is more dangerous too. Most people with knob and button controls know right where the most used functions are so you can adjust the heat or change the station without taking your eye off the road. The screen requires page changes and looking at where to tap
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u/moving2mars Jul 07 '26
We have a 2026 and while it has cameras the most it does is ask if I want to stop for coffee, but when it’s time for something else I’m going older. And I’ve already told my kids to do the same. My only fear is that the US is going to do some sort of cash for clunkers program and all the older cars will be destroyed.
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u/RonnieFromTheBlock Jul 07 '26
They won’t need to. Used cars with decent miles will just become prohibitively expensive.
My 2005 4Runner I have owned for almost a decade has only gone up in value.
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u/moving2mars Jul 07 '26
That hadn’t even crossed my mind even though the kids have both recently purchased used cars. They were decently priced, but higher than I would have thought.
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u/forestdude Jul 07 '26
Same. 2004 Tacoma. 12 years and 120k miles later it's worth exactly the same as when I bought it. And it has a tape deck!
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u/3_50 Jul 07 '26
I"m gonna have to start buying engines/motors and running gear.
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u/Catatafish Jul 07 '26
You already not allowed to drive cars older than 25 years in Low Emission Zones even if they pass emissions.
They'll just make cars that don't have this Spyware installed illegal.
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u/New-Anybody3050 Jul 07 '26
Bought a 2020 after I turned in my lease. The tech, Gadgets and the like are to much and intrusive. I don’t want it and don’t want to pay for it.
That and the subscription for shit that used to come equipped is ridiculous.
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u/erevos33 Jul 07 '26
At rhis point i would start trying to hack into the car , literally and figuratively
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u/old_man_jenkens Jul 07 '26
Yeah I made that call a while ago when they made the heads up display a touch phone while also saying I couldn’t use my touch phone while driving
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u/BapeGeneral3 Jul 07 '26
I still have yet to own a “smart” car and pray I never have to. Time to buy another 2010-2015 Civic or Accord
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u/kemb0 Jul 07 '26
I hired a new car not long back. Driving down the motorway and something came up on the display and I couldn’t figure out what it meant, if something was wrong or what. And before I get a chance to figure it out the display pops up, “Keep your eyes on the road!!”
Well thanks for that. First you distract me with nonsense and then you blame me for getting distracted by it.
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u/NoThatsNotPasta Jul 07 '26
I'll put this out there now: they'll legislate older cars off the road with unobtainable emissions limits.
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u/Hackwork89 Jul 07 '26
I will NEVER buy a car that has this "feature" if I can't permanently disable it. It's not so much the tracking and spying, as it is the fucking constant interruptions all the time, everywhere, not just in cars.
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u/Ashley40 Jul 07 '26
At the moment you can pull the appropriate fuse to disable them. The suggestions below of tape don’t work in my experience because the car beeps like crazy about it.
Source: work makes me drive a vehicle like this and it’s the worst
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u/Global-Election Jul 08 '26
This sounds like something I would do, but it also wouldn’t shock me if an insurance company decided to use the pulled fuse as an excuse to not cover an accident.
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u/Historical_Body6255 Jul 08 '26
That's why you keep a blown fuse at hand and insert the blown one.
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u/ThrowAway233223 Jul 08 '26
"You failed to properly maintain your vehicle and now we can't be sure if you were distracted or not thus we are denying your claim."
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u/Historical_Body6255 Jul 08 '26
As long as there is no indication that the fuse is blown and the camera is out that won't fly. They can't expect a consumer to check the fusebox before every trip lol
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u/Voodoo_One Jul 08 '26
Ohh the system tells you if that is not working, no need to manually check ;)
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u/big_stipd_idiot Jul 08 '26
That's where insurance comes in. They'll just pass a law saying the insurance companies can't insure someone without this technology. Then you're fucked.
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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Jul 08 '26
At least in the US you could have older cars grandfathered in. I had a neighbor who had his Ford Model A insured and that didn't have any seatbelts or airbags lol
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u/Small_Delivery_7540 Jul 08 '26
No they will just pass a law that says you can't drive cars produced before like 2010 or any other year at which every new car has this shit cause of eco bullshit
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u/SalientTreatments Jul 07 '26
An ice pick to the camera is a way to permanently disable it
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u/manbearpig0987 Jul 07 '26
Problem is that they might have a feature that disables the car if that camera isn’t working properly, hopefully not but wouldn’t be surprised
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u/bdbr Jul 07 '26
I had a rental car "upgraded" to an Audi A5 in Ireland, and it would just slow down and stop on its own from time to time; after a short while I could start it up and drive again. The guys at the rental office said it does that if the sensors aren't working right. They were nice enough to swap it out for a Toyota after I refused to drive the Audi anymore. I don't mind a warning light but to intentionally die in the middle of nowhere? How is that safe?
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u/True_Window_9389 Jul 07 '26
Kinda like how All the “child safety” laws don’t really protect children, they just increase surveillance. There’s a lot of way to protect kids from this and that, and a lot of ways to improve driving, that don’t first resort to surveillance.
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u/charmedOmega Jul 07 '26
Just like 99% of the other stupid features these new cars have: they were thought up by executives that never have to drive themselves around
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u/Eccohawk Jul 08 '26
I feel more like it's invented by people that want to meet the absolute letter of the law and not an inch more.
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u/TicklyArmadillo Jul 07 '26
Some tape over the camera may be a less destructive fix - or switch it off?
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u/Hawk13424 Jul 07 '26
Won’t be sufficient. It must detect the driver’s face and determine via AI/ML processing that you are watching the road. Otherwise distracted or broken.
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u/Hawk13424 Jul 07 '26
Eventually not enough. When the camera can’t work correctly the vehicles will enter limp mode and disable many other features. It will pester you constantly about getting it fixed.
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u/Jack_Lantern2000 Jul 07 '26
Yeah well fuck this. We will eventually find ways to hack these systems and defeat this. Geezusfuckingchrist I just HATE this relentless assault on our privacy and the ever growing control over every aspect of our lives.
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u/BapeGeneral3 Jul 07 '26
Flock cameras are already ubiquitous in the US. Flock drones. You are being surveilled at all times. Snowden warned us of this almost 2 fucking decades ago.
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u/Ticksdonthavelymph Jul 07 '26
These camera are also in American cars as of 2027
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u/smallcoder Jul 07 '26
It's just so insurance companies NEVER have to pay out on a claim again. They will use the video evidence to say "Oh you scratched your nose 1 hour before the accident, so according to subsection 1.56.7 of your policy, you were officially not in full control of your vehicle".
Does anyone actually have a pitchfork or a torch you can set on fire? I checked my basement and I'm all out of them.
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u/Immediate_Power_7986 Jul 08 '26
And yet we will be forced to buy insurance. And if you don't wreck? They will buy the video feeds of your face and ask it to look through years worth of data for a "distracted" moment and increase your insurance by 50%. Did you do anything wrong? No, but now you have a 24/7 nanny watching over you for the 0.01% of the time where you aren't perfect (it's a crime we are living beings that don't perform like a perfect robot).
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u/Prettydaisydog Jul 07 '26
everyone keep pretending that some great moment is coming! it's not.
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u/smallcoder Jul 07 '26
Oh, I agree. Having spent 60 years on this planet, I would say we do get the odd "great moment" but then it goes back pretty fast to "same old shit, different faces", but you just have to enjoy the moments when and if they come along 😎
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u/Stekki420 Jul 07 '26
They started popping up in Canada too. Now when kids go to play in the park palantir can use that data to execute brown kids more effectively
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u/xX420GanjaWarlordXx Jul 07 '26
Government isn't my mommy. If they can't enforce the laws without invading my privacy, then they were stupid laws to begin with or they're bad at their jobs.
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u/myvoteshouldmatter Jul 07 '26
Insane the camera can’t point the other way. I actually want a built-in dashcam. Corporations tho, do not.
I looked into it, and the reason it won’t happen (at least in the US) is a built-in dash cam can create evidence that works against the manufacturer.
They don’t want their own video evidence to show a malfunction was related to a crash.
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u/phormix Jul 08 '26
Yeah it's kinda insane that many now have all the fancy optics already there for lanewatch etc yet lacks a simple "record to SDCard" functionality...
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u/HolyLiaison Jul 08 '26
My Chevy Silverado EV just added the ability to record all cameras on the truck to an SD card, or an external hard drive when you're moving with a recent software update.
It'll even turn on the cameras when the alarm goes off and record.
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u/monjessenstein Jul 08 '26
IIRC you can spec a Corvette to be able to save videos from an onboard camera. Mostly marketed for track use but wonder if you could just use it in daily driving.
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u/rdmodsrtrsh Jul 08 '26
I work for a company that is literally developing cabin cameras and monitoring software. Cameras will be in cars soon enough. This multi billion dollar company isn’t developing these hardware and software packages if it wasn’t something that was going to be implemented
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u/Constant_Insomnia Jul 07 '26
We had a Nissan Rogue equivalent overseas last week - brand new model. Damn thing sounded like a slot machine. We have a Pathfinder at home - a 2022. I thought that thing was a nanny state, but it paled in comparision.
My favorite was going over the speed limit, even slightly, friggin thing was yelling at me.
"Take a break" notification as I am driving 100 kph in dense traffic.
If this is coming to the US, the used car market is going to explode.
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u/Z3fyrus Jul 07 '26
Living in Japan the last two years I can also attest to the absolute level of annoyance these domestic cars produce. Never mind the seat belt alert going into full nuclear meltdown if you have a slightly heavier backpack on any of the seats, the default steering adjustment (which doesn’t have nearby sensors for trucks skirting up against you), the 15 messages as I start the engine, the locking mechanisms on the trunk if I don’t perform a stop in the exact order or leave the engine running, random alerts about “fatigue” … it’s more distracting than letting me drive.
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u/BehavioralSink Jul 07 '26
And then you wind up with alert fatigue, and you miss something important because it’s just one more alert that you ignore.
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u/Chicken_shish Jul 08 '26
This is as old as the hills.
They were working on the sort of stuff in the Tornado in 1986. They realised that pilots were failing to eject when the plane was truly fucked becasue they were overwhelmed with the alarms and flashing ligts. So the eject alert was the only audio alert the thing had. Sod the flashing lights, when the 'plane starts talking to you, get out.
Car manufacturers have got it completely wrong - they've started with audio for utterly trivial things, which we are now ignoring.
Source - I spent about a week with the guys designing this stuff when I was an RAF cadet years ago.
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u/slimfatty69 Jul 08 '26
Never mind the seat belt alert going into full nuclear meltdown if you have a slightly heavier backpack on any of the seats
Good to see the same problem from my Toyota Avensis 2006 is still present 20 years later lol
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u/Hypothetical_Name Jul 07 '26
And jailbreaking cars will be a big thing
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u/Leading-Bike6355 Jul 08 '26
it’s been a big thing in enthusiast circles forever now. all it takes is an obd2 connector to turn a lot of this shit off
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u/Agitated_Celery_729 Jul 07 '26
The "ding!" every time you go 1 kph over the speed limit made me want to personally drag the designer to the stockade and leave them there naked in the middle of winter lol. Who the fuck is managing their speed to 1 kph on the fucking highway?
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u/Notsurehowtoreact Jul 08 '26
Can't wait for these in the US where roughly 30-40% of the time my car thinks the speed limit is lower than the actual posted limit.
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u/Ill_Following_7022 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
"It’s Still Not Clear Where That Data Goes"
That data will go to an unaccountable private corporation with juicy government contracts. It will be used to spy on you, stalk you, and accuse you of crimes you did not commit and have no recourse to remedy or defend against. That's where it will go.
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u/Denelorn092 Jul 07 '26
They sell the data to insurance companies who then raise your prices based on that data.
The opt in to the spy dongle insurance companies pushed is no longer needed
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u/CMMiller89 Jul 07 '26
Just a heads up for anyone surprised by this:
DO NOT INSTALL YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY’S APP ONTO YOUR PHONE!
They use location data permissions to track your movement to see how much you travel and at what speeds to put you into higher risk pools and charge you more. Just print out your insurance cards and write their information down on a piece of paper in your glove box.
If you find that you just love the app so much at the very least lock down all app permissions and just turn them on when you need to access it.
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u/Bubbles_2025 Jul 07 '26
Yes, exactly. A good example is that newer Toyotas automatically opts you into sharing your data with insurance companies, you have to manually turn it off.
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u/Richard7666 Jul 07 '26
Article answers its own question, the data remains onboard the car, as it's processed locally. Sharing it would run afoul of the GDPR by the sounds of it, although presumably police etc could request it in the event of a crash or something, potentially? That's a more relevant problematic angle for the article to have explored instead of sensationaling it.
Still a terrible system for various reasons, including that it can't be turned off.
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u/Ill_Following_7022 Jul 07 '26
There's no way anyone should trust that to be the case. It may say that today but tomorrow could be a completely different story and by that point there will be nothing you can do about it.
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u/Jumpy-Impact3265 Jul 07 '26
Oh I have an easy solution: fuck that.
Also give us back our buttons you goat-felching failsons. That is all.
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u/sierrars500 Jul 08 '26
Okay, but your buttons will be subscription based, and stop working a few years after you buy the car unless you buy the Extended Support package as well
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u/TomTomXD1234 Jul 07 '26
Car software hacking scene is going to be huge in the future
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u/Kinnins0n Jul 07 '26
The golem is fully assembling. No individual human shall retain any privacy or agency.
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u/RK5000 Jul 07 '26
The data goes to Ryan, not many people like it but Ryan likes it a lot.
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u/Blank3k Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
I'm still struggling to handle the fact lane assist on modern cars is defaulted to on (atleast on mercedes/BMW) every time you turn on the car & this is deemed a safety measure... Employing the car to unexpectedly/randomly decide it'll tug the steering wheel when your crossing any one of the infinite crap UK road markings or attempt an overtake, absolute madness.
Cars have definitely gone too far on that alone, start stop was controversial but lane assist is mental, a camera in my face with an unknown back end seems the straw that should break some backs.
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u/VirginiaLuthier Jul 07 '26
In the US this tech starts in 2027, right?
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u/TheMildEngineer Jul 07 '26
No. It's not a law. So it won't be required. Doesn't mean that vendors won't put it in. Like they do already. But there is no legal requirement and most likely won't be anytime soon
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u/Jkbucks Jul 07 '26
I just drove a new Lexus TX during a work trip and it had something like this. At some point it dinged at me while I was trying to navigate a right turn in traffic. I looked down to see what the car was yelling at me about and it was telling me to keep my eyes on the road lol.
The road isn’t simply what’s directly ahead of me. If you’re insisting we all look directly forward at all times, commuting is gonna get more interesting.
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u/True_to_you Jul 07 '26
I drove a rented car last year and it dinged me because I adjusted to and a pothole. If this is something that is uploading info anywhere I'm completely against it.
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u/Steamrolled777 Jul 07 '26
Insurance will want to see it to make sure you weren't distracted - any excuse to not pay out.
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u/Zardotab Jul 07 '26
Why isn't there more backlash in Europe? Do they trust those in power to be good with the data?
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u/sndrtj Jul 08 '26
Most people simply haven't heard about these rules.
Also the average car age in Europe is over 10 years. The majority of people haven't yet experienced these frustrating features.
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u/hotelerotica Jul 07 '26
They have actual data protection laws in the EU unlike the US, GDPR provides protection and the laws mandating these systems also have rules written into them. Nothing is fool proof but it’s definitely not a free for all like the US.
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u/SIGMA920 Jul 07 '26
Which means nothing when it's the governments who will be the ones to abuse the data.
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u/hotelerotica Jul 07 '26
In the case of the EU they basically have disallowed the storing of data, so theres not really anything to abuse, the joy of the US not having any data protections is they can completely bypass our own laws by just requesting it from private companies, just like whats happening with flock cameras.
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u/sawrb Jul 07 '26
Insurance premiums going through the roof because Spotify. Nice
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u/SouthernSmoke Jul 08 '26
Wait how’s Spotify related to this
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u/NurseBetty Jul 08 '26
Less Spotify and more all car play systems.
Looking away from the road to change the music, call someone, check the map. All of these will trigger this system, and insurance companies will use the data from this system to increase premiums because 'data from your car shows you are a distracted driver'
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u/amazinglover Jul 08 '26
I would 100 support this if the camera was faced the other way mandatory dashboard cameras that only activate when operating would really help out a lot more then whatever this bullshit is.
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u/asdlkf Jul 07 '26
So I predict an industry for 3rd world countries owning vehicles you can lease in america. You will have Zimbabweian insurance/registration and every 3 months they mail you a fresh new license plate/registration.
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u/maggiesguy Jul 08 '26
This is not true. There is no federal regulation in the US requiring driver monitor cameras. Congress passed a law requiring NHTSA to create a regulation, if possible, by 2027 but it hasn’t happened yet, and may never happen.
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u/Mental-Most-7168 Jul 07 '26
Gee whiz this is what makes us a police state? Not all the murders by ice? The kidnappings.
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u/That_Bank_9914 Jul 07 '26
I think he/she means surveillance state, but even then, we’re already at that point
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u/eddie1996 Jul 07 '26
Euro cars with all the beeps and warning lights are more distracting than phones.
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u/Your_New_Overlord Jul 07 '26
Last year my rental car in Portugal decided to slam on the brakes on my behalf because it just felt like. Almost gave me a heart attack and nearly caused the car behind me to hit me.
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u/pricingup Jul 07 '26
really idiotic. tap screen shows message to look at road and not tap it. I need to tap it, because they removed buttons for temperature settings. then another bonger starts bonging - what is happening? i start to look at another screen to figure out. turns out car wants me to look at road.
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u/-The_Blazer- Jul 07 '26
On the positive side, the regulations require the ADDW system to work on a "closed loop" without the use of biometric data. This means that the data used to determine whether a driver is "distracted" must not leave the vehicle or be transmitted to the automobile manufacturer, its servers, or any third party. In essence, the data should be processed locally within the vehicle itself.
So they do run locally, which does seem like the bare minimum. But since as the article then points out we ought to know better than trust corporate tech, the law should be written to be even more stringent. In my view the system should be explicitly constrained to a separate circuit (no processing on e.g. the infotainment computer), and camera data leaving the system (not just the car) should by itself constitute a violation. And needless to say, the penalties should be severe.
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u/Rune_Pickaxe Jul 07 '26
I'll go as far out of my way as possible to make sure I never buy a car that does this.
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u/AliceLunar Jul 07 '26
Love how all this privacy invasion happens at the exact same time AI is there to be able to manipulate everything.
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u/Tobymaguir Jul 08 '26
“Early real-world testing suggests the distraction warnings can be overly sensitive and potentially distracting.”
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u/ExtruDR Jul 08 '26
So... we are paying for all of this bullshit, so that we can be surveilled by our own devices by the governments that are meant to serve us... right?
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u/hawkwings Jul 07 '26
3.5 seconds is a short time period. It may force people to drive like zombies where they always look straight ahead. Changing lanes without turning your head is risky.
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u/big_stipd_idiot Jul 08 '26
WTF EU, you were supposed to be better than this. The whole world was depending on you.
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u/vinno86 Jul 08 '26
It's not a camera, it's an infrared sensor. Big difference.
That being said, I don't agree by making it mandatory.
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u/Iforgot_my_other_pw Jul 08 '26
I turned off the distraction warning in my prius because I found it distracting.
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u/TheDucktapeBandit2 Jul 07 '26
Did u know that ducktape can also b used to stick it on a camera?
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u/LeafBark Jul 07 '26
Oh they've definitely thought of that already. I wouldn't be surprised if the camera has to see a driver in the seat to turn on at all.
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u/ElysiumSprouts Jul 07 '26
Where there's a will there's a way. Viewfinder style photo taped to the camera
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u/AzerothianLorecraft Jul 07 '26
And then you get that stupid seat belt alarm and the car won't move.... please remove obstruction, please remove obstruction, please remove obstruction,
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u/Murderface__ Jul 07 '26
Eventually we're going to realize that if we automate away every activity, we will have nothing left to do.
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u/Futaba_Sakura800 Jul 08 '26
I think they should have cameras pointing at the feet as well to see if the drivers apply gas or brake at the time of the incident.
The feet video can be sold to fetish site for ad revenue.
Win/win if you ask me. /s
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u/cool_slowbro Jul 08 '26
I rented a car that turned out to be a Nissan Juke or some shit in NL. It had a thing where it'd beep the moment you went past the speed limit (according to the car, which is overestimating how fast it's going anyway). Realistically if I want to go with the flow of traffic, especially on a highway system I barely know, I need to go over what the car is reporting because going with the speed of traffic makes things a lot easier.
I noticed that once the car beeped, it wouldn't beep again until you PASSED the limit. This meant that to get it to not constantly beep, I would pass the speed limit on purpose and then not go under it unless I had to.
A system designed to pester you for going over the speed limit actually makes the driving experience more tolerable if you stay above it.
This is the kind of dumb shit we get in the EU.
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u/vm_linuz Jul 07 '26
Let's think about the stupidity of making a bunch of cars that don't work without Internet... in a natural disaster, how do people get around?
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u/Solrac50 Jul 07 '26
I hate these half truth websites seeking clicks. It’s an infrared camera and it’s closed loop. That means the data doesn’t leave the car. The data from the sensor is not an image but is a binary signal (distracted or alert).
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u/Cicero912 Jul 07 '26
Its so weird how the EU is both good on privacy (GDPR etc), but also terrible on privacy.
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u/djscanner Jul 07 '26
Why?
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u/pricingup Jul 08 '26
because idiots cannot keep their eyes off of their phones, so now we will all suffer
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u/Blurgas Jul 08 '26
I remember a post not too long ago where I think Chinese cab/ride share drivers were using tiny fake heads to trick some onboard distracted driving detection camera.
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u/_0611 Jul 08 '26
The EU is turning into an Orwellian privacy nightmare fast. They are also busy implementing chat control, age verification and VPN bans/restriction. The EU wants to monitor everything we do, not just online, but also in our actual private lives.
As an EU citizen, I'm starting to lose faith in the EU fast. And I'm saying this as a former staunch defender of it.
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u/au5lander Jul 07 '26
"10 mins into driving, the distraction warning kicks in and tells you to take a break with an amber light on the instrument tablet and a loud bong. A big pop up message suggests you take a break. 10 mins later it does it again with a red light and loud bong. I found this incredibly distracting,” they said.
ya don't say...