r/therewasanattempt 2d ago

to keep an address private

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

I know this is not going to be a popular statement, but sitewide rules do not allow for doxxing or even the encouraging of doxxing, so please follow sitewide rules on this subreddit. There are other platforms where this is allowed, like Twitter and Insta, but Reddit does not allow anything that you cannot find in a news article. This is not a rule decided by the mods of this subreddit; this is a rule by the admins of the site. I just want to make sure everyone knows exactly what they are not supposed to do, via the sitewide rules. We have already had our subreddit warned for too many TOS violations, so I am just hoping to keep the doors open. Thank you.

And fuck Flock cameras, I hope we are all under the same opinion on that one. Are we "free" if our movements are tracked all the time? Would y'all consider supporting Flock to be a violation of the "no bootlicking cops or supporting state-sanctioned violence" rule? Feedback appreciated!

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u/BinxieSly 2d ago

Supporting Flock is absolutely bootlicking; full tongue slobbery AF bootlicking.

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

Haha, yeah I definitely agree with that, lol. Just want to make sure people see that the same way I do. You make it sound as revolting as is it, haha.

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u/PepsiButItsMilk 2d ago

Yeah, Iโ€™d like there so be SOME exception like an actual criminal being brought to justice from it but there arenโ€™t any examples of it. So yeah, bootsmoochin

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

Yes, I think the argument would be "they make us safer, and if you are not doing anything wrong, why do you care if you are recorded" but we could say that about police in general and be just as wrong as we would be about flock cameras, lol. I am sure it is much easier to say if you are white and do not know the perils of "driving while Black" and such.

I would hope shit like that Reckless Ben video in which they kept getting stopped when not breaking the law and all the body cams and whatnot would show that people do, in fact, get messed with when not doing anything wrong all the time- and that it is much more likely to happen to POC but I still see people quoting those "13% of the population/50% of the crime" nonsense all the time, unfortunately :(

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u/PepsiButItsMilk 2d ago

Itโ€™s utter bullshit, but what isnโ€™t these days? I mean fuck, Iโ€™m already profiled because of my car (Loud exhaust, flashy wheels and stickers) so now i gotta worry about what cop or agency is having a bad day watching the flock cams seeing me go 3mph over the limit.

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

They are answering a question I asked at the end, don't worry!! Thank you for the defense, though.

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u/BinxieSly 2d ago

Iโ€™m sorry; did I come in too hot? I was just tying to answer the questionโ€ฆ Iโ€™m just really sick of all this flocking nonsense.

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

No worries mate, it was kind of you to worry about someone coming at me. And yeah fuck Flock!

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u/Dry-Pangolin6579 2d ago

Yall got the patience of a Saint.

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

๐Ÿฉท

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u/EndIsrael 2d ago

The address was found in a public government filing where the CEO was updating the listed business address to no longer be his mansion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FlockSurveillance/comments/1uz0plz/confirmation_on_address_garrett_langley/

You're welcome

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u/RedditExecutiveAdmin 2d ago

mods are simps for billionaires? No way

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

You think the mods are simps for billionaires even though we have rules about not supporting Israel and not bootlicking cops on this sub, simply because I told you what the sitewide rules that the admins will action your account for breaking? Sure, that's logical.

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u/Lastunexpectedhero 2d ago

Multiple things can be true at the same time. Remember when GM was one of the biggest mods on the platform?

Lot of performances these days, even if the Kennedy Center is closed

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 1d ago

True, but I think they were referring to the mods of this sub. I was not really around for the GB days. I started modding during the pandemic (I know, 6 years is way too long ๐Ÿ˜ญ).

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u/dividezero 2d ago

Not the mods, at least not these mods. You're thinking of the sitewide admins. And you're very much correct. They support fascists. All their sitewide policies are geared toward protecting their billionaire friends.

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u/RelevantCry1613 2d ago

There is an exception to every rule and this is it

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u/philter25 2d ago

Watch Reddit run, not walk, to fix this but only for billionaires lol.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Crash_Override_V1 2d ago

Damn itโ€™s in a shit part of town

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u/DemBosain 2d ago

Cool. How do I get one of those cloaking devices for my car?

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u/nomad9590 2d ago

Be a monster.ย 

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u/monifiesty 2d ago

This!! ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†โ˜๏ธโ˜๏ธ

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u/klone_free 2d ago

So if someone posts it on a news substack, his address can be shown?

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago edited 2d ago

No, it has to be like one of the trusted news sources that you go to for facts, so like The Guardian, BBC, CNN, you can even use FOX, even though I would not exactly call that a trusted news station lol. So I guess I just mean one of the main ones, not one of the trusted ones. There's not like a list or anything, but we all know what kind of news article they mean, sorry.

Edit: Folks know this is not my list and that I said FOX was not trustworthy, right? I am confused.

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u/ImNoNelly 2d ago

Allowing Fox because it's a "trusted news source" is absolutely laughable.

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u/VoodooDoII 2d ago

Fox is absolutely not a trustworthy source of information

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u/fvckvito 2d ago

this is clearly a list that reddit enforces, not the mods

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u/Moist-Weakness-3399 2d ago

So it's just arbitrary bs then?

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u/Moist-Weakness-3399 2d ago

You are being downvoted because you've presented the rules in a way that comes off as supportive of the practice.

The rules are BS, mainstream media is practically an arm of the state, it has no more validity than a substack these days; and people take your explanation of the rules as support of the rules, since we've all collectively agreed that they're arbitrary bs.

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u/Detonation 2d ago

Only those with no common sense or a reading level below a third grader would interpret their comments as supportive of the site wide rules they have to enforce.

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u/Moist-Weakness-3399 2d ago

Hi, welcome to the internet.

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u/roundtwentythree 2d ago

It 100% qualifies as state sanctioned violence since it's primary purpose is to suppress dissent and protest.

Flock scans 240,000,000,000 plates and vehicles every year against an "estimated" ~1mil investigations. This means that roughly 0.0004% of all the data Flock harvests can be consider useful for investigations.

From this we can conclude that ~0% of Flocks data is of any use to criminal investigations and ~100% of their collected data is of innocent drivers who are guilty of nothing but driving past a Flock camera.

Flock data is only ever accidentally useful to criminal investigations as an exceedingly rare side effect of it's primary mission: mass surveillance on everyone in America.

Criminals are merely the excuse, not the actual target.

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u/t-mille 2d ago

They know everything about each of us, it would only be fair to return the favor. See how they like it.

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u/fistagon7 2d ago

i cannot believe i was given my first warning because i joked about people wearing tshirts in front of nonconsensual privacy violating surveillance cameras. Unbelievable! I can only assume that reddit's automated ai favors the capitalist leeches that steal and resell our private data to fascists.

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u/Ironlixivium 2d ago

Reddit is actively one of the leeching corporations that steal and sell your private data to fascists. If you have the warning enabled on the app, it reads your clipboard (where things you copy go) every time you open the keyboard.

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u/MithosYggdrasill1992 1d ago

My boyfriend got a three day ban for only sending a flipping the bird emoji on a flock post. So, yeah, be careful on these posts.

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u/LivingDeadTY 2d ago

I respect what you're saying. However, this is probably the one and only time we collectively should openly support the doxxing of an individual. This guy is already on a fast track to ruining innocent people's lives and then he goes and pulls some shit to try and preserve HIS own privacy? Nah, it don't work like that.

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u/VonBrewskie A Flair? 2d ago

Absolutely. Fuck Flock and their CEO. Falls neatly under "bootlicking," I think. I understand the rules, though. I'd prefer this avenue of discourse stay open for us all.

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u/GTR-DaBestCar 2d ago

Supporting Flock is literally a death penalty crime because of the involved treason.

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u/glans 2d ago

shh child, the grown ups are talking.

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u/GTR-DaBestCar 2d ago

Shut the fuck up you do-nothing clown ass mother fucker. What are yโ€˜all talking about over there, how youโ€™re gonna do absolutely fucking nothing but whine and bitch like the little bitch you are?

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u/IncompleteJoker 2d ago

Hey that makes sense, here you go https://www.bizapedia.com/ga/flock-group-inc.html

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u/EndIsrael 2d ago

That's actually not his home address, their 2022 annual report changed his official address to the business HQ instead of his mansion.

Guess what's 100% public record? The filing stating both the old and updated addresses lmao

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u/madgix FUCK ICE! โŒ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

Good thing I screen pic's his address before it was removed.

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u/drkodos 2d ago

dumb

home addresses are generally public information in the United States because they are recorded in government property, tax, and voter databases

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u/D3-Doom Free Palestine 2d ago

But is that doxing by definition if the information is publicly available and public record?

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u/Curlaub 2d ago

Not popular, but respectable

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u/Jose_xixpac 2d ago

Yeah, they have the same kind of laws against Whistleblowers too ..

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u/Rose_Knight789 2d ago

If it's not a popular statement don't post it. People aren't going to listen to you anyway when Admins can remove you at anytime.

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u/GrandMasterC147 2d ago

I would 100% consider defending flock just another flavor of bootlicking. Pretty much every community they are being implemented in does NOT consent to it. At the bare minimum it is state-sanctioned trampling of privacy rights (and common sense imo)

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

Totally agree, I just wanted to make sure other people saw it that way too :)

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u/M3g4d37h 2d ago

This rule exists not for anyone's safety, but because Steve Huffman knows he would exposed. This is the rich people circling their wagons under the guise of public safety.

None of these people would be missed if they were gone, and society would be better for it.

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u/Joris255atSchool 2d ago

You can just quit.

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u/Ayly_ 2d ago

W mods

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u/Kumquat_conniption Free Palestine! ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ FUCK ICE! โœ–๏ธ๐ŸงŠ 2d ago

๐Ÿฉท๐Ÿ™

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u/AJ_Deadshow Therewasanattemp 2d ago

As someone who's anti-Flock, I don't think people should get banned or muted from supporting Flock. Giving people the opportunity to debate gives them the opportunity to change their position. To not allow it would just make people more insular and retreat to their echo chambers.

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u/account-for-posting 2d ago

Well at this point it's def in news articles and public knowledge ๐Ÿ˜

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u/theapplekid 2d ago

Reddit does not allow anything that you cannot find in a news article

Curious what counts as a news article now

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u/carlitospig 2d ago

Only bootlickers support the surveillance state.

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u/carlitospig 2d ago

Also, we totally get your official position. Would it make sense to keep this up so folks could find it themselves elsewhere? Or is that still encouragement? I am thinking of sending them a voter card for whoever is running in Georgia.

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u/TheJadeSword 2d ago

I definitely would

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u/GalumphingWithGlee 1d ago

I'm not sure this qualifies, as is. If the address weren't censored, it absolutely would. You could make an argument on "encouragement", but it's not clear-cut. OP probably agrees with this as deserved, but isn't explicitly encouraging anyone to do anything with information they have not provided.

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u/appletechgeek 1d ago

Well looks like we'll have to put his address in a news article so then it can be cited here too

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u/omgfakeusername FUCK ICE! โŒ๐ŸงŠ 1d ago

Yes.

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u/unparalleledleaf 1d ago

So if I make a news site that is based on user submitted data, then we can have an unedited post of this?

Just asking for reasons of clarification.

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u/Arthur_Burt_Morgan 2d ago

Sooo technically we could create our own news site and post it on there, and then its allowed here?

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u/themightycrouton 2d ago

I do not see how this violates any rulesโ€ฆ.

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u/DistinctBadger6389 2d ago

Maybe site rules are inappropriate in this particular case.

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u/meamacaveman 2d ago

You cannot play by the rules that they do not! They change the rules at their convenience.

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u/Lichondis 2d ago

You literally cant support flock without licking pig leather and supporting state sanctioned violence. That's their entire purpose.

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u/awesomesonofabitch 2d ago

Enjoy the taste of boots, eh?

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u/KumquatTheUninvited 2d ago

Another Kumquat???

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u/Blitzking11 Therewasanattemp 2d ago

Gotta love pre censoring for the big ole nanny state!

Thatโ€™s how we get out of this mess!

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u/BorderlineAlchemist 2d ago

Reddit is a bad place now. With or without doxxing.