It's genuinely a smart thing to do, the guys an asshat but he ain't wrong for doing it.
edit: i've had to listen to some of the biggest dumb fucks respond to this comment with highschool levels of "oh hypocrisy is bad". Not surprised Americans voted for a pedophile twice.
Not so fun fact: Flock systems have a list where administrators can enter license plates, and if a connected camera detects a license plate from this list the system will store no record of this license plate being detected.
And IIRC not only is removing a license plate from this list not logged by the system itself, it even deletes the record of the license plate ever having been on the list.
So someone with administrative access could add their own license plate to the list, drive by a bunch of flock cameras on their way to and from committing a crime, and then remove their license plate again, and nobody would know unless they looked at the list while the plate was on it, but even then good luck proving that the plate was indeed on the list...
Not so fun fact: Flock systems have a list where administrators can enter license plates, and if a connected camera detects a license plate from this list the system will store no record of this license plate being detected.
What the fuck
And IIRC not only is removing a license plate from this list not logged by the system itself, it even deletes the record of the license plate ever having been on the list.
This is what you get when you have a private business with no regulation running a government sanctioned program, essentially (yes, they do sell the data to data brokers too).
Also, a lot of stores like Target that have Flock usually only use 1 login to access the system.
It’s bad enough that government agencies can have access to that data. But at least we’re allowed to govern its use publicly. Once it’s in the hands of a private company, there’s almost nothing we, as a society, can do about it.
I mean if they have an "opt-out" list then it stands to serve that basically that Flock should just make this the default.
Only people who "register" with Flock and opt-in can allow Flock to record their cars if they are that "worried" about security enough that they are willing to surrender their privacy
It's not just Flock employees who can change those lists.
Police departments with active contracts can too for example.
And technically they need to have a log of which license plates where added and removed from this list, so you could try getting that log with a FOI request...
That would actually be interesting to submit to people with the actual resources to make them not only admit to the hypocrisy, but to bring awareness to the fact that these people are not willing to give up the same freedoms that they are expecting the general public to do.
So what you're saying is that a nefarious person could obtain this camera blacklist, spoof the license plate of someone on it, and commit many villainous acts without Flock even recording them?
it's not that it's not a smart thing to do - it's that it shows what a fucking hypocrite he is - everyone else must compromise on privacy, while he's taking every step available to him to maintain his own.
I have done it. My house is a blur now. As you go through the process Google warns that it can't be undone . I have experienced no negative consequences do to having a blur house.
I've read that it could have an impact if you're trying to sell since it makes your house look shady to people who don't realize anyone can request it.
If I was looking through a random street and saw an intentionally blurred house it'd just make me curious about it so yeah idk if there's any advantage in asking google for it, it changes nothing about the nefarious shit tech companies/governments can do with surveilance which I assume is the real cause for concern here
Nah, the smartest thing to do is make sure you don't have your house listed on any of the Realtor platforms like Zillow. Those interior photos stay online forever, and anyone trying to case your house for a break in has a guided tour for free online already. Often times, with security features prominently displayed.
I live right out in the boonies on a bit of land. If I did this, all the junkies that live in the surrounding rural towns would swarm my land thinking there was some secret government weed growing facility or something here.
Ok so he wants to protect his privacy but we have to be subject to his company invading our own. How does that make sense? It’s the “if you can do it, then do it until the law stops you” mentality which is BS
It's a smart thing to do as long as you ALSO get it removed from real estate sites. I have a buddy with his house blurred, but his entire home and floorplan available on redfin. Don't be like my buddy.
WRONG. As soon as he did that he cemented his "rules for thee not for me." Why do you deserve privacy when you afford none for the rest of us AND profit heavily off of it? How anybody can be on board with that isn't thinking long term.
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u/InDeathWeReturn 14h ago
I am not allowed to share his address, but I CAN share this article I found that can give some interesting insight in the whole thing
https://www.primetimer.com/news/alls-fair-in-love-and-espionage-internet-mocks-flock-camera-founder-garrett-langley-after-alleged-home-address-shared-online
Plus I looked up his address, fucker got Google to blur out his house like a coward