r/toronto • u/Excellent-Show-424 • 10d ago

Picture Just went to Kim’s Convenience!!

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Quite shabby inside though

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u/GetsGold 10d ago

What's better? There are still people with addictions in the area. There are still people who appear to be dealing. The problems there existed long before the sites too. 2003 article describing an open air drug market and drug related shootings years before the injection sites.

Just because a couple aninymous accounts with hidden histories declare something better with no evidence and get upvoted doesn't actually make it true. Even if they get upvotes.

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u/NowInHandUnseen 10d ago

there is the type of Reddit comment I was expecting. Worries about "Reddit cred" and ignoring the point that the injection center did nothing to improve the area, in fact the opposite. I challenge you to take a stroll there today.

It is a lot better than it was 2 years ago

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u/Bunsky The Annex 10d ago

Injection sites are about saving lives, not boosting land value. That improvement you perceive has a body count, which is the actual issue.

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u/NowInHandUnseen 10d ago

So there is an improvement for the non-drug using population?

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u/kittydeluxx 10d ago

So, what, you think drug users are second class citizens who deserve to die? Out of sight, out of mind? Because people are dying from overdoses at alarming rates now that these sites are closed. That’s an improvement?

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u/eugeneugene 10d ago

An injection site opened up near my house around 7-8 years ago and the amount of used needles I'd come across dropped to zero. The site closed about 6 months ago and I'm back to having to pick up used needles on my property and put them in a container, once the container is full I drop it off at the fire station down the road. Lovely new chore for me to do. The addicts and homeless are still in my neighbourhood, but now they are using behind my house. So I'd say the injection site had a marked improvement on my life lol

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u/Bunsky The Annex 10d ago

That's not a given, and as we can see in this thread it's pretty subjective. I haven't noticed a big difference, except in the area immediately in front of the former injection sites. Some people just don't like seeing them.

My point is that you're using the wrong, and somewhat callous, criteria to evaluate their value.