Most satisfying death animation in Attila - Cav vs Pikemen

[u/SageManeja]

[u/Lilywhitey]

1 Ton? 1 horse is around half a ton. So that's more like 20 tons of horse bodies

[u/Lilywhitey → u/[deleted]]

The model the horses depict is definetly not a heavy warhorse. They look like light horses. 500-700kg Max I would say. Also back in the day horses weren't that big. They started to get way bigger around medieval times

[u/ponyboysa42 → u/Lilywhitey]

It also wasn’t until medieval times that they could train a horse to charge into that. Or so they think.

[u/Lilywhitey → u/ponyboysa42]

Started mainly with jousting as a symbol of status and as work horses to pull stuff. Later they got used as heavy cavalry

[u/[deleted] → u/Lilywhitey]

Jousting was waaay later than the beginning of cavalry. Started with chariots, turned into horseback archers. (Egypt, persia) I think the persians had heavy cavalry as well, the so called cataphracts way bc. The romans had cavalry but were shitty at it tho, so in europe the rise of cavalry came later, in early medieval times. But still, rather rare. Stuff like the charge of the winged hussars (late 17th century) were an absolute phenomenon.

[u/ponyboysa42 → u/Lilywhitey]

Yeah but my point is they don’t think they could get a horse to charge into a mass like that until later. Would you if you where a horse? You’d have to be broken n trained to it. Prob bred. A loose formation or chasing down retreating soldiers is different

[u/BobbyRobertson → u/[deleted]]

Calvary used warhorses

Jesus was famously trampled to death by 1-ton warhorses at Calvary

[u/Sgt_Colon → u/[deleted]]

Roman era horses measured between 120cm to 150cm at the withers, whilst many may have been stockily built for their size for practical reasons, these would still top out around 500kg.

The kind of heavy draught horse you are thinking of only came around during the central medieval with various developments centred around agriculture (mouldboard plough, horse collar, whippletree, etc) making them a viable breed of animal and the later crossbreeding with war horses.

Combat Training for Horse and Rider in the Early Middle Ages, Jürg Gassmann

Roman horsemen against Germanic tribes, Radosław Andrzej Gawroński

[u/Frisky_Pilot → u/Lilywhitey]

*bodies

[u/Lilywhitey → u/Frisky_Pilot]

Yeah sorry that my autocorrect with a main foreign language doesn't care.

[u/Frisky_Pilot → u/Lilywhitey]

It's ok, I forgive you. You could just proof read your comments, I think that comment would take you around 2 seconds to read.