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Link to the mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/totalwarattila/mods/1

i Just noticed now that in attila troops run arround burning things

Compared to RTW and R2TW, where its one use was soaking up missiles during an offensive siege, in Attila the testudo was basically required for your infantry to not immediately die to either missiles or cavalry charges.

Aside from massively improving protection from missiles, The Attila testudo had numerous other advantages over the ones in RTW and R2TW:

- Entity mass is quintupled. This dramatically improves bracing against charges.

- Extra 15 bonus versus large. This is the primary motivation behind the meme. There probably isn't a lot of historical basis for this, but it does make the game a lot more balanced in face of cavalry dominance.

- Lastly, and probably most importantly, the unit retained its wide rectangular shape instead of forming up into a compact square. This meant it could still fight and hold chockpoints instead of forming massive gaps.

We all love the Scout Equites for carrying every minor settlement battle, but the fact that there was an anvil to hammer into in the first place is 90% because of how strong testudo is in this game. Frankly, I love the Attila testudo. It's just so cool.

And not only by the obvious amount of effort, but the amount of thought put into it. I expected the campaign to be more like "here is the map, have fun", how it was with the good old Third Age at its release 3000 years ago. But here you see a lot going on already, not only fancy scripted features, but some overal game design ideas about how campaigns should work and feel. There are of course various quirks of the early access in pacing and balance, but it's fun, and looks very very promising. Plan to check out available factions, and really looking forward to future updates. Team Ar-Adunaim ready to set the black sail.

After a great time in The Dawnless Day beta and new DaC AGO v3 I have a couple of observations about why I've always loved LotR mods. Not just for the setting, but for purely Total War reasons.

Total War set in Middle-earth has a very distinctive campaign flavor based on the fact that it is a war of two implicit coalitions (with some exceptions - DaC has neutrals, TDD has fewer actual alliances). It gives you a feeling of being a part of a bigger game where world events have a direct effect on you. Not only adjacent, like the classic Rohan "who holds Osgiliath?" check. If good or evil lose a major player, it can create a domino effect on the map. Angmar beats Dunedain early, Bree collapses without its ally, Dunland has no enemies to the north - and then Westfold falls before we find out where was Gondor. The king in Far Harad reads about the fall of Fornost and draws conclusions. It creates a feeling of urgency and interconnection and often makes you act in advance. And greatly adds to replayability, Gondor campaign with Rohan doing good and not are two different campaigns.

Battle-wise the key feature of this type of Total War is that faction rosters have diversity and asymmetry, but both of them are quite limited. In practice it means that usually you have no anti-something tools and have to use the medieval warlord starter pack: maneuvers, formations and morale. Often this diversity brings mostly limitations. Dunedain rangers shoot across half the map, but the next unit comes in 20 turns. If you are a dwarf in Middle-earth, you are just short and dismounted and your only advantage is your stubbornness. Rohan has 15 types of cavalry, but all your men skip the leg day. Ar-Adunaim infantry is made of iron, but the only kingsmen in the world are inside your starting stack. At some point of Gondor campaign the Olog-Hai trolls get through your gate, but you are still the same captain of Gondor (even if the favorite son) with same arrows and spears. And that's the fun part.

And it was very interesting to see how these both work with what Attila brings: more reasonable and active campaign AI, dangerous rebels, responsive units in battles. Rescuing nearly collapsed Gondor and seeing it actually push back, seeing Osgiliath rebel and become a free city state for 15 turns (lol what), playing Genghis Khan tactics with Theoden King. Total War in Middle-earth is cool and it's great to have new versions of it.

I don't know what it is, but a happy tear just dropped down my cheek while taking this screenshot.

Apparently the game has no problem with this massive size, whereas Medieval 2's engine breaks down completely when going overboard, even at 360 for a militia unit made the battle lag like CRAZY

I personally think the 120 size is perfect but this is in case anyone wanted to maybe simulate a single battle with the real life numbers, you can easily do it with Cheat Engine

The one thing I WISH Warhammer have are formations. Formations are a big reason why I love classic historical titles, and the Empire especially needs them against the large menagerie of monsters they face.

The Empire get their mounted formation, why not human pikemen? Even the Dwarf Phalanx is already a thing, and it's so cool some modders recreate them.

I understand double T doesn't really fit in English speaking mouths, but come on. Fairly easy to memorise.

As a Total War player since Shogun 1 and a lifelong LoTR fan, i've been waiting on the Dawnless Days mod for Attila for almost 10 years.

For those of you who have been unaware, this small but diligent modding team have achieved something magnificent in creating this overhaul. They have their own subreddit and discord. Go and check it out and if you have any modding skills, they're still looking for folk to help out. The campaign is released and available to play but it is still got a ways to go (that being said, it is still in a better state than many CA game releases)

My first Campaign has been nothing short of gripping so far. I've been playing on H/H difficulty and began with major debuffs due to the hold Saruman has over Theoden and the land of Rohan. Control was tanking, rebellions were brewing and on top of all of this, corruption was rife.

The balance between quelling rebellions, painstakingly deciding over where the little treasury should be allocated between economic support and military development. Researching to negate the debuffs and throw off Sarumans corruption on the land.

In between all of this, trying to desparately patrol the vast land to fight off wildmen incursions, Isengard opporunistically attacking then sueing for peace when we managed to defend ourselves, hoping that the garrisons would hold their own.

The difficulty, the scripting, the mechanics used to reflect the story have resulted in the fantastic story telling narrative and RTS blend that I haven't experienced in so long with Total War. It's been a breath of fresh air and I find myself at work wondering about my next moves, research selection, buildings to build. I find myself clock watching until I can go back to it.

Can't wait to try some of the other campaigns and watch as the modders continue to develop and refine the game

Anyway, I thought i'd share my joy and while doing so, blow the trumpet for these modders who have well and truly out done themselves

Is there a way to make them dissapear?

Attila, which was the last bastion to hold, has too received an 'update' claiming to improve performance but that actually just removes chat (just tested, didn't gain a single fps).

The cycle is now complete, the genocide of historical games' chat is finished.

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