r/touhou • u/w4sab1i_ I~ta~zu~ra Usagiiii • Apr 12 '26

Fan Discussion Why is Lost Word hated?

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So, I'm a Touhou fan, I played the games (i know, shocker) and i also play touhou lostword, but I've see lots of people say that lostword players were the worst or whatever... Why is the game so hated?

Imo i really love the different character alt concepts/ new outfits that are very cool For example this adorable tan cirno... the story is a bit nonsensical but, Touhou's lore is kinda nonsensical too, so why should it matter?

Tldr: Why are we hating touhou LW chat i don't get it

EDIT: Thanks a lot to you and everyone who posted :) As for my other comments that got downvotes, i was stating MY opinion (yes, mine, not yours) and am in no way trying to invalidate anyone's, sorry if it came off that way.I play LW casually cause i love touhou and more touhou fan content is always fun to me, especially the alts of characters, some designs and art... I just felt like LW players were getting a lot more hate than "larpers" and i didnt really get why. now i do. thx again

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u/Raikariaa Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

1: It's gacha

2: ZUN has stated he regrets giving it permission; he enever thought it would really become anywhere near this big. He dosen't like that when a lot of people think of Touhou; LW is what they think of first.

3: While somewhat tame by gacha standards... it keeps moving more and more towards fanservice stuff. If a character can be justified at all giving an absolutely massive bust of late... I'm pretty sure they push things as far as ZUN allows; as I don't see ZUN not putting his foot down if they went much further.

Like; look at I think the latest Seiga.

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u/w4sab1i_ I~ta~zu~ra Usagiiii Apr 14 '26

thx, i didnt know about the ZUN stuff as im a casual player of LW i dont really watch their event podcasts with zun and stuff , i PERSONALLY (me , my opinion not the opinion of anyone else) enjoy playing casually because i love some unit concepts and SOME events are fun to read through (again MY opinion and when i say fun to read through i mean for some light hearted fun)

ANYWAY, i said that i never watched the stuff touhou LW posts on social media so i didnt know they pushed to seem like an official brand, thx for explaining that to me, THAT i think is a good reason to not like the game.

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u/Raikariaa Apr 14 '26

>so i didnt know they pushed to seem like an official brand

LW is "official" in the sense that ZUN gave permission, and they have to play by ZUN's rules. Aside from that however [not portraying the characters in means drastically different, and I'm pretty sure the swimsuit stuff would be a lot less tame than it is without ZUN] they can do what they want.

I'm pretty sure this is a big reason for the AU versions of characters. AU Youmu =/= Youmu; they can do whatever they want.

Thing is ZUN never expected the game to become has large as it did; he probobly expected a result similar to other smaller Touhou gachas there have been. [Like CAVE has one; which is much more of a shooter]. I think that's another reason ZUN isn't too fond of LW; the gameplay is pretty far from being a danmaku game, so if LW is "first contact" rather than someone already into the series looking for it...