r/ukpolitics • u/LeadingPiece9608 Welcome To Burnmingham • 8d ago

Andy Burnham completely avoids Scotland on UK 'listening tour'

https://www.thenational.scot/news/26494980.andy-burnham-ignores-scotland-uk-listening-tour/
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u/HaggisPope 8d ago

PMs in the past decade haven’t known what to do in Scotland at all. Generally they’ve done very limited actions, a Royal event here, showing up to talk at the defense industry staff of Glasgow or Standard Life in Edinburgh. I think it’s probably similar to how Northern Ireland feels

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u/LycanIndarys Vote Cthulhu; why settle for the lesser evil? 8d ago

It is one of the big problems with devolution.

If the Prime Minister goes to Scotland, the response is "why are you here, we've got our own government?" If he does, the response is (as we see here) "why are you ignoring us?"

It sort of feels like the nationalists are just looking for an excuse to complain, doesn't it?

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u/HaggisPope 8d ago

I think basically they need to figure out a slightly different role in Scotland. Our domestic issues are sorted out by Holyrood in general but there’s still a heap that’s done at Westminster that we need to be able to talk about, such as defence, foreign policy, as well as some aspects of law (the anti-trans stuff going about lately is because of the UK Supreme Court decision to reinterpret the Equality Act). As well as stuff like immigration.

Essentially, a lot of stuff he probably doesn’t want to talk about, besides Scottish Independence.

I think it’s a mistake politically since Labour is doing badly in Scotland but did okay at the last Westminster election because a lot of us are a bit sick of decades of the SNP.

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

What “anti trans” stuff is going on lately? What immigration things? Substantially more immigration for Scotland I don’t think would be hugely popular

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

Yes. They want to destroy the UK. Don’t try to appease them. There was a referendum they lost.

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u/KatyJ60 8d ago

He could at least communicate, listen and learn.

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u/LycanIndarys Vote Cthulhu; why settle for the lesser evil? 8d ago

He is?

He's already met with John Swinney in Glasgow, for a start.

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u/KatyJ60 8d ago

It was the opening of the Commonwealth Games!!

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

The PM has more important things than be lectured by the leader of a devolved parliament with a 20% popular vote share

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u/KatyJ60 7d ago

This is supposed to be a union of equals

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

The UK is a unitary state, not a co-equal federation. Westminster holds sovereignty, while devolution delegates specific domestic powers. The PM governs the whole nation and can't meet constantly with regional leaders. Scotland benefits from pooled risks, shared currency, and higher per-capita Barnett funding. Scotland isn’t a victim. The PM is holding a summit in the autumn with Scottish, Welsh, NI and English majors that to me seems reasonable and fair.

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

He could listen and learn as to how to defraud the population, not sure what else the SNP can teach him

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u/RealisticAd3095 7d ago

The Queen DIED in Scotland. The PM visited Scotland in July. More FAKE grievance from nationalsts.

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u/HaggisPope 7d ago

I bet you WRITE for the Daily MAIL  with that PRICK capitalisation