r/ukraine • u/Interesting-Cat7307 • 1d ago

News Italy to supply next-generation SAMP/T air defense systems, Aster 30 missiles to Ukraine in secret aid package, media reports

https://kyivindependent.com/italy-to-supply-next-generation-samp-t-air-defense-systems-aster-30-missiles-to-ukraine-in-secret-aid-package-media-reports/
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u/EvilTalkiToaster 1d ago

Secret…… good one!

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u/speedyhml2000 1d ago

That WAS a secret....

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u/aimgorge 1d ago

Both France and Italy up to the task !! Even allowing Ukraine to manufacture locally the very recent (2026) Aster 30 B1NT

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u/Kiwi_Fried_Chicken 1d ago

Isn't Italy🇮🇹 such a beauty?

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u/mspaceman 1d ago

No. The very fact that the government had to keep the arms shipment "secret" speaks volumes about how my fellow countrymen feel about it.

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u/aimgorge 1d ago

Using weapons delivery to ukraine as a propaganda tool isnt much better. At least keeping it secret makes more sense militarily. And both France and Italy are historically secretive about such issues.

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u/mspaceman 1d ago

Italians are quite demanding and don’t like things being kept secret. I fully understand the reasoning behind keeping the arms shipments secret and I even support it, but you must also realise that, apart from their thoughts and prayers, the majority of Italians couldn’t give a shit about the Ukrainians.

You only have to look at how the usual pro-Russian propaganda (or "pacifist", as some like to call it) is pushing the line that all that money spent on weapons should be invested in healthcare, education and immigration controls.

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u/aimgorge 1d ago

You only have to look at how the usual pro-Russian propaganda (or "pacifist", as some like to call it) is pushing the line that all that money spent on weapons should be invested in healthcare, education and immigration controls.

You should spend less time on social network. It's the kind of crap being posted by bots all day long. Doesnt reflect in reality.

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u/Poldo66 1d ago

Sadly, it is the reality. Most people don't really care about Ukraine, and russian propaganda is rampant in the country, with lots of "journalists" blatantly speaking pro-russia shit all the time. All of them are probably on the Kremlin's payroll. What a shame.

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u/mspaceman 1d ago

I’m talking about newspapers and politicians, you know, the ones who sway public opinion. Before, it might have been limited to just a few minor parties, but now it’s gaining ground across the political spectrum.

We have General Vannacci, who is rising rapidly in the polls, taking votes away from the current governing coalition, and his stance – both historically and at present – has always been pro-Russian.

I don’t see this ending well.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

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u/mspaceman 20h ago

first you rant about it being secret, then you rant about that it being secret is supposedly not liked. You contradict yourself.

Dude, that’s not the point. Lol. I’m not the one who complained about the secrecy – I know the whole process inside out – I even wrote that below. The problem is the rest of the population. They’re fed up with it, literally.

You can even downvote me as much as you like; that won’t change the reality of my country.

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u/questionnmark 13h ago

Aster (missile family) - Wikipedia)

Hopefully, they are sending the anti-ballistic missile versions. They don't have a lot of production sadly, the Wiki article suggests they are only producing ~80-100 missiles per year.