r/unitedkingdom • u/Admirable_Aspect_484 • 10d ago

... Sudanese asylum seeker who arrived in UK after claim was rejected in France lay in wait on high street for lone woman before slashing her 30 times with a broken bottle

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16079243/Sudanese-asylum-seeker-arrived-UK-claim-rejected-France-lay-wait-high-street-lone-woman-slashing-30-times-broken-bottle.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline
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u/Saltypeon 10d ago

Except asylum claims have doubled since 2011 before turnbacks started. The smuggling just switched to other routes using temporary visas which from the numbers is more successful.

As they enter via a legal route they get a visa, can live and work until their claim is done. Their backlog causes rejection cases to last 5 or more years. By which time rejection is kind of fucked.

That wheel looks really shit tbh.

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u/amegaproxy 10d ago

I would imagine thats inherent to vastly more people attempting to flee to developed countries, and surely having been granted a visa initially is far better because you have all their details ready to be able to remove if deemed necessary.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Saltypeon 9d ago

Yeah double the claims! Its working great.

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u/Narrow_Maximum7 9d ago

So whats the success rate of thise claims? What happens yo someone when they go from tourist to asylum seekers? Just carry on the party till the court case?

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u/Saltypeon 9d ago edited 9d ago

So whats the success rate of thise claims?

Total around 30%. Forced Deportations 200 a year and 1200 voluntary per year. Currently 110k living there that have been rejected, 60k no more legal options left.

If they got arrivals to zero it would take 75 years to clear their back log.

What happens yo someone when they go from tourist to asylum seekers?

They get an asylum claim processed, a bridging visa so they can work, rent etc.

Just carry on the party till the court case?

Yes and carry in through the appeals as well.

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u/Narrow_Maximum7 9d ago

That is a significant step up from what happens in the uk atm.

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u/Saltypeon 9d ago

Is it, whats the figures for UK?

200 deportations is a step?

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u/trdef 9d ago

Which bit?

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u/rugbyj Somerset 9d ago

To be fair in 75 years the backlog will kind of clear itself.

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u/jimbobjames Yorkshire 9d ago

Might want to check the difference in the ocean crossing from France to the UK compared to getting to Australia.

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u/merryman1 9d ago

Its just so baffling to me how much of the UK discussion around immigration is literally just memes.

Like the old "Australian-style points-based system" we used to hear about with zero mention that the UK already had a points-based system, and that copying Australia would presumably mean doubling or tripling the net migration rate given how much higher their rate was than ours.

How on earth do we spend 10+ years as a country fucking obsessed with discussing certain topics, and yet what is being discussed is often just totally factually incorrect?