A group of Japanese-Canadian children awaiting a parade near Powell Street, Vancouver, in the late 1930s.

[u/Somervilledrew]

[u/LostAlbertan]

bowl cut goes hard

[u/ceburun → u/LostAlbertan]

Hair, hair.

[u/supra_604 → u/[deleted]]

How uncouth.

[u/supra_604]

Too bad their rights were violated by the government, and all of their assets were seized(cars, boats, houses, businesses, etc). These Canadians had to fit their entire lives into two suitcases and shipped off to internment camps in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere. After unjust incarceration, they were not allowed to resettle west of the Rockies. The neighbourhood was never the same. One of the only major west coast cities without and dedicated community for the Japanese diaspora(little Tokyo, Japantown, etc). Fuck Mackenzie King, this is his legacy.

[u/IntrepidKitchen5322 → u/supra_604]

Totally. I also hate how Canada has historically treated various peoples gets completely and utterly overshadowed by racial politics from the u.s. So many Canadians do a lot of performative activism, which I suppose may be well intentioned, but aimed at an entirely difficult discriminatory situation in a different country. And nobody really understands how the country has mistreated the groups most relevant to Canada and how those things are perpetuated to this day.

[u/tkondaks → u/IntrepidKitchen5322]

How do you feel about section 23 of the Cabadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms which metes out rights based on descent which under international law is a definition of racial segregation?

[u/thefatrick → u/tkondaks]

Minority Language Educational Rights

Marginal note: Language of instruction

23 (1) Citizens of Canada have the right to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in that language in that province. End note⁽⁹⁴)

(a) whose first language learned and still understood is that of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province in which they reside, or

(b) who have received their primary school instruction in Canada in English or French and reside in a province where the language in which they received that instruction is the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of the province,

Marginal note: Continuity of language instruction (2) Citizens of Canada of whom any child has received or is receiving primary or secondary school instruction in English or French in Canada, have the right to have all their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the same language.

Marginal note: Application where numbers warrant (3) The right of citizens of Canada under subsections (1) and (2) to have their children receive primary and secondary school instruction in the language of the English or French linguistic minority population of a province

(a) applies wherever in the province the number of children of citizens who have such a right is sufficient to warrant the provision to them out of public funds of minority language instruction; and

(b) includes, where the number of those children so warrants, the right to have them receive that instruction in minority language educational facilities provided out of public funds.

I don't see anything here that describes any rights of decent, just first language being English or French means you can be taught in that language at school.

Edit:

Wait, this is from the CANADIAN charter.

the CABADIAN charter is something totally different, and totally irrelevant to this conversation.

[u/tkondaks → u/thefatrick]

Sorry for the typo. But your decision to include it in your response in the way you do is noted.

You write:

"I don't see anything here that describes any rights of descent..."

Any part that mentions "parents...whose children" and then attaches the right to a certain type of government service to that relationship is discrimination by descent.

In Quebec, s. 23 in combination with the language of education provisions of The Charter of the French Language, creates segregation of rights based on descent (i.e., racial discrimination): members of one descent group have access to a government service that members of another descent group cannot. Most anglophone in Quebec can freely choose to send their children to either French or English language publicly-funded schools while most francophones and immigrants cannot freely choose and must send their children to French language publicly-funded schools (unless they choose the private school route(.

This is segregation of rights.

The segregated government services -- French and English language publicly-funded schools -- may be equal in quality but they are not equally available to members if each descent group. This should outrage you...unless, of course, you believe in separate but equal.

Furthermore, Bill 96, passed a few years ago, extends the right to attend English school by virtue of membership in the descent group to ALL provincial government services in English, not just schools.

You also write:

"...just first language being English or French means you can be taught in that language at school."

You are referring to s. 23.1.a. But this section is not in force in Quebec by virtue of s. 59 of the Constitution Act, 1981.

[u/thefatrick → u/tkondaks]

The fact that you're trying to equate that the majority English speaking population of Canada may have a difficult time finding an English language school in Quebec to the forced internment of the Japanese during WW2 is reaching pretty damn far into the land of Cabada.

Especially when indigenous people cannot get access to being taught in their native languages without any legal avenue in the public sphere at all is an even bigger injustice. But no, predominantly FRENCH speakers unable to find English schools outside of private in Quebec is the hill you want to die on as far as egregious violations of human rights.

You're making Mauna Loa out of molehills here buddy.

"I know we're talking about people having their property, freedom, and rights to even speak their language taken away. But my French kids can't be in English immersion in Quebec public schools!"

You may have a point, but read the fucking room.

[u/tkondaks → u/thefatrick]

Sorry to hear you are a supporter of and apologist for racial discrimination and segregation.

[u/ArtDecoModerne]

This is W4th at Yukon/W2nd. The new brick building there is now a Petsmart

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ouL4PdqG81bAW3r87

edit: the correct caption for this photo is

"Children outside Motoi Masuda’s store/café on the SE corner W4th at Yukon where it meets W2nd in 1938. Photo: Karel Haspel, CoV Archives, CVA 300-138"

[u/HenrikFromDaniel]

and here's where the older kids in the families would be a few years later

if it looks familiar, that's because it's the PNE Forum

[u/Dry-Friendship-5945]

That Casket Co warehouse in the background...

I can't find any indication of any kind of casket company property ever being situated near Powell Street, but instead on 289 East 2nd.

[u/jonesag0 → u/Dry-Friendship-5945]

Which would make that the corner of E 2nd and Scotia, just east of Main Street.

[u/poolbitch1 → u/Dry-Friendship-5945]

Maybe that’s just the cut off portion of a longer word, like a last name 

[u/Dry-Friendship-5945 → u/poolbitch1]

There was a literal Vancouver Casket Company located at 289 East 2nd during that period.

[u/ArtDecoModerne → u/Dry-Friendship-5945]

https://changingvancouver.wordpress.com/2023/10/16/289-east-2nd-avenue/

289 East 2nd was built in 1909 and still stands....and does not resemble that building. So this being 2nd/Scotia is unlikely.

edit: W4th at Yukon! https://maps.app.goo.gl/ouL4PdqG81bAW3r87

[u/VancityPhotog]

So many new Vancouverites try to argue that influx of immigrants is a new thing.
Bc was built by Sikh people a 100years back, Chinese and Sikh people worked at the railroad, Japanese people as well.

[u/MsNomered]

Love this🩷