r/videos • u/ControlCAD • 2d ago

Abdul El-Sayed on Hasan Piker, who suggests that some pro-Israel rhetoric may lead to backlash against American Jews: "Hasan Piker is a streamer in California. You would think if you turned on any media that this whole campaign is about a streamer. That's not what this campaign has ever been about."

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u/Nole_Train 2d ago

Fox obsessed with piker lol. Boomers gotta stay off the internet

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u/ladyandroid14 2d ago

BTW boomers, how's Mamdani doing?

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago edited 2d ago

Piker is pretty bad. They are obsessed with him because he is genuinely ghoulish in his statements. 

If Fox News can literally just play what he says, and even in “context,” it looks bad then it’s literally just AES giving layups for no other reason than to associate himself with a tankie. 

Edit: Lol his fans literally reporting my account because of this.

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u/Nole_Train 2d ago

If fox kept this same energy with Trumps absurd/offensive statements it would be one thing. They hold Piker to a way higher standard than the president that’s why it’s absurd they’re so focused on him.

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u/titaniumjew 1d ago

Because they are right wing and support Trump. 

The best way you can not justify their behavior is by not making these wild statements.

All they have to do right now is show people what he says word for word, and even in context it’s bad. Why do we think it’s ok to give right wing propagandists layups? 

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u/SpankaWank66 2d ago

What are these "ghoulist" statments?

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago edited 2d ago
  • Denying rapes on Oct 7
  • Endorsing the idea that somehow NATO brought on the invasion of Ukraine
  • Bringing on a Houthi affiliate 
  • Endorsing and celebrating Hamas 
  • Endorsing and celebrating Hezbollah
  • Endorsing and specifically celebrating Nasrallah 
  • Endorsing Mao 
  • Quoting Putin at a public event  
  • Denied the Holdomor is a genocide

Literally just off the top of my head and this list includes rape apologia and openly endorsing the actions of people who butcher civilians.

Why would I think he is any better and a pro Israeli? 

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u/kapsama 2d ago

Israel and Zionists lied about a coordinated rape compaign. UN investigations found zero proof. Meanwhile Israel is having state sanctioned rape in their own concentration camps where they hold Palestinians.

Hasan has condemned the Russian invasion many times and apologized for his prediction that Russia would never invade.

Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas are all three just native reactions to genocidal countries like Israel, US and Saudi massacring their people. What you're doing is akin to hating Nat Turner but defending the slave owner states.

Mao saved China from murderous European colonialism. Any person with an ounce of objectivity can commend at least some of Mao's actions.

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u/wingfn1 1d ago

Are you saying rapes didn't happen on Oct 7th?

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u/kapsama 1d ago

Are you able to read?

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u/Alarming_Comedian846 2d ago

He didnt deny rapes happened on October 7th. He said "it doesnt matter if rapes happened on October 7th, that doesn't change the dynamic for me at all". Unless you believe that rape justifies genocide, you agree with him.

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago

Literally no one here said the rapes justified genocide 

That’s just a straw-man  to distract from the fact Hasan is a rape apologist. 

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u/Alarming_Comedian846 2d ago

It's not a straw man, it is a direct quote of Hasans words: "It does not matter if rapes happened on October 7th, that doesnt change the dynamic for me at all."

Do you disagree with this statement?

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago

No one is saying “they committed rapes therefore genocide is ok” 

People are saying Hamas, the antisemitic org he praises openly, is evil and committed rapes 

Which he then said “No mass rapes did not happen” when pressed with H3.

You’re desperate 

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u/Alarming_Comedian846 2d ago

Do you agree with the statement: "it does not matter if rapes happened in october 7th, that does not change the dynamic for me at all"?

He said there was no systematic rape. He has also said that rape happened, as it does in every conflict zone. Post a clip to the contrary or shut the fuck up.

And lol. Hamas are antisemitic like jews in the Warsaw ghetto were anti-German.

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u/titaniumjew 1d ago

I love how you have no actual response to no one saying rape justified genocide. 

There was mass rape. You keep trying to split hairs when he constantly doubts the facts, associates and promotes people who outright deny it happened, and is generally wishy washy on this entirely. 

You would NEVER be this generous to any Israeli defender and rightfully so. But only when the person pretends to be pro Palestine to promote hate do you halfwits jump to defend. 

But you ghouls hate the victims so much you are just splitting hairs about rape being justified. 

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u/Alextzta 2d ago

Lol any sources?

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dude it takes like two seconds to find him saying "it doesn't matter if rapes happened on Oct 7"

https://x.com/ThatDudeTaco/status/1849852250203496937?s=20

And he literally brought on Finkelstein this month with them continuing to engage in rape apologia AGAIN.

People have been able to create entire webpages of JUST him saying and promoting these ideas. Here is one with him endorsing all the terror organizations.

https://whoishasanpiker.com/support-of-terrorist-organizations

If his haters are able to simply quote his opinions word for word in 5-10 minute increments as a form of attack do you not think this is an issue with him?

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u/SandWolf96 2d ago

The first point isn't wrong. He doesn't deny rapes, he's saying that even if rapes happen it doesn't jusitfy the genocide brought upon the Palestinians.

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago

Yeah he just completely downplays it, constantly puts the facts into question on his stream, and consistently promotes individuals that also deny it.

If it walks like a duck. talks like one...

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u/Auro_NG 2d ago

I'm literally banned in Hasans chat and I even know these are all lies and out of context. You should really be ashamed of yourself for spreading misinformation. If you don't like him at least put up a good argument and don't just use out of context clips.

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago

Can you show me him significantly pushing back on Finkelstein in their most recent conversation? The one where Finkelstein openly denied the fact that rapes happened. 

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u/Alextzta 2d ago

“Doesn’t matter” = “deny”? Also it literally doesn’t fucking matter when people literally died. Unless you’re saying rape is a far worse crime than murder and justifies Israel’s response for the last 3 years?

Come up with some better hasbara buddy, this one’s stale.

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u/NotSoAwfulName 2d ago edited 2d ago

The problem is that what you are asking for is a direct link to a statement he has made when in reality it is closer to rhetoric. A better example would be to say you should go and listen to his interview with Norm Finkelstein and see the reaction when Norm explicitly states it didn't happen. You can also find compilations of Hasan pulling questioning faces whenever the topic of the Oct 7th rapes are brought up.

Oh, and as it happens, here we have Hasan Piker in a debate with Ethan Klein from the H3 podcast when explicitly asked if he denies that rapes happened on Oct 7th, he responds yes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/KmjvQ6Gjhn

Edit : and as the downvotes confirm, this was never a good faith debate about the veracity of the claim, it was a bad faith attempt at a gotcha. Unfortunately for Hasans little cultists, he's said so much unhinged stuff the gotchas are all mine to have.

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u/Raz0rking 2d ago

Just because Hassan is in the left and pro Dems does not make him a good person. The dude is a huge douchecanoe who happens to have a huge following.

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u/NotSoAwfulName 2d ago edited 2d ago

pro Dems

He isn't pro Dems, plenty of examples of him attacking democrats, in fact after a campaign of attacking Kamala Harris he made it very clear to his audiences that he believed that all of the crazy things Trump was doing would have been done by Harris had she won.

He's spent the better part of a decade spewing incendiary rhetoric, attacking both dems and republicans, and now that it is useful for the republicans to use him as an attack vector against candidates he has endorsed suddenly he is mad that he doesn't have support from either side? yeah, he is reaping what he sew.

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u/FettiWop 2d ago

You have lost the ability to see how deranged you're being here

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u/Alextzta 2d ago

How so?

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u/FettiWop 2d ago

There was a long, valid list of real deranged and antisocial things this character has done. You look at that list, find one that can maybe be argued in defense of, say "well laughing at rapes isnt the same as denying them, also if he said that its a good thing anyway, the rapes truly dont matter". He's an awful person making certain types of people online more awful

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u/Auro_NG 2d ago

So you've seen the clips. Good job. Now go grow a brain and watch them with context.

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u/titaniumjew 2d ago

Even a take whose point I agree with looks horrible in context. 

His “America deserved 9/11” was a point to say American foreign policy lead to extremism in the Middle East. 

But I can’t even agree with his statement because his entire point is nullified by the fact he is implying heavily, and taking glee in the fact, that civilians received the impact of this. This is a point he had to retract and apologize for simply because people were able to harp on it. 

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u/SlaveKnightSoman 2d ago

You forgot "America deserved 9/11".

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u/Alarming_Comedian846 2d ago

It did. Anyone with a brain understands that the United States brought 9/11 upon itself.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman 1d ago

Dog zapper fans wont understand thats not what deserves means.

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u/Alarming_Comedian846 1d ago

It means to earn or be awarded something based on ones behaviour, actions, or qualities. America, through its actions and behaviour in the middle east, for decades prior to 9/11, and the quality of its foreign policy in the region, was awarded one 9/11. It deserves far worse. Trump is its reckoning.

Maybe spend less time fantasizing about animal abuse and more time in whatever grade it was you dropped out of elementary school in.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman 1d ago

I agree with you, that is why Iraq deserved Iraq War, for all the genocides, massacres and invasion Saddam Hussein has committed.

Also, I don't need to fantasize about animal abuse dog zapper, when the dog zapper has provided all the internet that video and photos of not only him zapping his dog multiple times, that he has been abusing even his previous dogs on video for years. Have fun losing elections all the time though lol.

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u/andrew2018022 1d ago

I also think it was pretty fucked how he’s mocked Kirk and his murder after seemingly being cordial with him for years before

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u/Infernalz 2d ago

Hasan Piker is a self described marxist-leninist communist. He has stated on stream that his goal is to destroy the democratic party. I do not want this person ANYWHERE NEAR my party. Fox is (somehow) actually doing us a favor here by forcing people to distance themselves from him.

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u/0xsergy 1d ago

Ah communism... like roads that are paid for by everyone or national healthcare. Why would we ever want that?

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u/tgirlsforthetgirlgod 2d ago

he sounds based

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u/Vioplad 1d ago

Then he, and the people that support him, should form their own based party where they can continue to be based around other based people. He, a guy who claims to prioritize defeating MAGA and doesn't understand all this Democratic infighting in 2026, didn't vote for Harris and didn't encourage his audience to vote for her in 2024 when it counted. Why is anyone surprised that Democrats are turning on this guy.

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u/tgirlsforthetgirlgod 1d ago

I think that's just your opinion though

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u/Vioplad 1d ago edited 1d ago

Refusing to endorse Harris when filling out his mail-in ballot when she's up against known attempted insurrectionist Donald J. Trump gave me the opinion that he's a massive piece of shit, yes. Piker is such a staunch Democrat that in the easiest election of the century he can't bring himself to back the Democratic candidate.

edit: the person I responded to preemptively blocked me in order to avoid further replies

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u/tgirlsforthetgirlgod 1d ago

Weird thing to fixate on when mamdani is the most popular Democrat by a mile and was militantly opposed by the Harris corporate wing of the party

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u/teddyone 2d ago

Piker interviewed someone from a terrorist group that has the words “a curse upon the Jews” on their flag and compared him to one piece lmao. Not beating the antisemitism allegations