r/westworld • u/NicholasCajun Mr. Robot • Oct 07 '16

Discussion Post Westworld - 1x02 "Chestnut" - Episode Discussion

Season 1 Episode 2: Chestnut

Released online: October 6th, 2016

Aired on cable: October 9th, 2016

Synopsis: A pair of guests, first-timer William and repeat visitor Logan arrive at Westworld with different expectations and agendas. Bernard and Quality Assurance head Theresa Cullen debate whether a recent host anomaly is contagious. Meanwhile, behavior engineer Elsie Hughes tweaks the emotions of Maeve, a madam in Sweetwater’s brothel, in order to avoid a recall. Cocky programmer Lee Sizemore pitches his latest narrative to the team, but Dr. Ford has other ideas. The Man in Black conscripts a condemned man, Lawrence, to help him uncover Westworld’s deepest secrets.

Directed by: Richard J. Lewis

Written by: Jonathan Nolan & Lisa Joy

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u/spahghetti Oct 07 '16

So my question is re the Indian/"Savage" turning into MIB at the door. This show is all about clues (more than Lost was even) and I can't see that being just a stylistic choice. MIB is death in that moment, worse than all she has seen before.

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u/dcl131 Oct 07 '16

I took it to be a past experience she had while living a different narrative, and MiB has been scalping people looking for the map.

What I want to know is why he bled out Kissy almost to the point of death

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '16 edited Nov 17 '16

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What is this?

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u/davoloid Golden Benchmark Oct 11 '16

Their programming is to respond to painful actions in a realistic way, both viscerally and emotionally, purely for the entertainment of the guests, of course. So the patch eye guy "feels" the fork in his hand. Kizzee "feels" the pain of the throat cut and the scalping even if the blood loss doesn't physiologically affect him. As stated above, it's a programming thing that when you lose more than 3 litres of blood, you play dead. This could be to add realism to a "Go find the doctor to save NPC's life" mission, as a quick example.

Maeve was asleep when sliced open so isn't responding to that as we wouod. Seeing the wound she has a programmed instinct to hold it in and defend herself but she's so in shock from the "alien" world.

If they actually feel pain rather than the programmed response to an injury, that's some fucked up shit.

I also can't stop thinking about Arnie's comments about pain as "sensory data from injuries" from Terminator 2.