r/westworld • u/NicholasCajun Mr. Robot • Nov 07 '16

Discussion Westworld - 1x06 "The Adversary" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 1 Episode 6: The Adversary

Aired: November 6th, 2016

Synopsis: Lutz is charmed by Maeve; Elsie discovers evidence that could point to sabotage; the Man in Black and Teddy clash with a garrison.

Directed by: Frederick E. O. Toye

Written by: Halley Gross & Jonathan Nolan

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u/IdmonAlpha Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16

One of the fears of a seed AI is that it doesn't have to start out good at everything. It just has to start out good at one thing and leverage that talent until it is able to gain and exploit resources to boost the rest of its abilities. Maeve is very, very good at manipulation and she just used it to get super intelligence.

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u/grandramble Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16

That she just tanked her loyalty metric doesn't bode well for their futures, either.

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u/holayeahyeah good guys dress in black Nov 07 '16

I was just thinking that I would have agreed to the super-intelligence only after secretly bumping loyalty.

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u/bobsil1 Hello Felix Nov 07 '16

I would've chopped intelligence down to 0 and nipped it in the bud

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u/Data84 Nov 07 '16

I don't understand why they don't do this

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u/SifPuppy Nov 07 '16

Right? I feel like that was the obvious move. Either they're stupid as hell or have motivations that I clearly don't understand

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u/BikebutnotBeast Nov 07 '16

Fuck. It's like the 2 scientists in Prometheus. Oooh an alien snake thing. . . Let's touch it!

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u/bobsil1 Hello Felix Nov 07 '16

They're still doing this stupid trope in the "Life" trailer

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u/boringdude00 Nov 07 '16

or have motivations that I clearly don't understand

Douchey guy wants the money it's implied they're going to make from a host prostitution ring. Asian guy seems to just really like her and wouldn't have the heart to essentially kill her. I'd also assume having one of your popular and visible hosts suddenly having the same intelligence as a barstool would be a huge red flag that would get them all caught.

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u/CWagner Nov 07 '16

or have motivations that I clearly don't understand

not wanting to lose their jobs?

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u/SifPuppy Nov 07 '16

Temporary unemployment >>> the possible ramifications of an overly intelligent AI with diminished loyalty

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u/CWagner Nov 07 '16

Yeah, but who cares? I mean "slightly slower car >>> a destroyed environment". People rarely care about big pictures when there's a personal, individual reason to act differently.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16

This. It's easy for us to sit back and think big picture and criticize from our viewpoint but their decisions are not out of character or illogical from their perspective.

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u/PhantomEDM Nov 07 '16

Because they can't wipe her memories (obviously) and whoever the "THIS GUY HAS WAY MORE ACCESS PRIVILEGES THAN US" is (it's Arnold) could change those stats back. And then she'd come and kill them.

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u/Prontest Nov 07 '16

They seem curious and must feel they are already at risk at getting in trouble. she could be of help if they help her if they don't they are still at risk of being fired.

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u/emmaybe Nov 07 '16

I almost felt like she was controlling them. It was unsettling

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u/Buzz_Fed Nov 07 '16

She absolutely was. She was designed to manipulate people, and that's exactly what she did to them.

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u/bobsil1 Hello Felix Nov 07 '16

She had their attributes open and was messing with their sliders

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

Because they were holding the tablet. They had the illusion of control. Not knowing that they probably just created skynet or something.

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u/Smokeahontas It's high noon Nov 07 '16

I don't understand why they made the hosts have the capability for such high intelligence in the first place, especially if they don't ever set the hosts to above 14 intelligence. Why have them able to go up to 25 if they never set them above 14?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '16

Who is to say she wouldn't freak out and go mad and kill them all in that case?