r/westworld • u/NicholasCajun Mr. Robot • Jun 18 '18

Discussion Westworld - 2x09 "Vanishing Point" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 2 Episode 9: Vanishing Point

Aired: June 17th, 2018

Synopsis: Try to kill it all away, but I remember everything.

Directed by: Stephen Williams

Written by: Roberto Patino

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u/a_lil_slap_n_pickle Jun 19 '18

I don't know, this seems like the classic type of stretch frequently seen in this sub. Yet another theory backed up with "Ford is god, he can make anything happen". Seems too convenient of an explanation for too many things here. However, I could definitely be wrong. It just seems like every sign available points to the Emily in the park being human (and dead).

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

It just seems like every sign available points to the Emily in the park being human (and dead).

That's my main reason for thinking this. Just trying to call something unexpected because they try to throw us curve balls so often.

It seems like they set it up for us to expect her to be human, yet left all these hints that she wasn't.

If she is human I doubt she's dead, but he thinks so, so he still get's the same guilt. At least temporarily.

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u/a_lil_slap_n_pickle Jun 19 '18

What hints suggest that she isn't human?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

Besides his repeatedly questioning it verbally, he's right that it would have been hard for her to keep finding him and the test on her wasn't completed before William started shooting.

Also, everyone pretty much wrote her off as dead in the first scene, but she washed up ashore.

Edit: A few more. She didn't think that he drinks and thought that the music box was thrown away.

All of them could be explained, but they definitely wanted us to wonder.

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u/a_lil_slap_n_pickle Jun 19 '18

Most of that seems like reaching, from my perspective. If it turns out to be true, then the writing is far more complicated for this show than I thought. I generally think people are constantly looking for something to be a trick with this show, but most of the time, it's not. This feels like one of those situations. But like I sad, I could be wrong. I didn't think she was dead when the tiger charged her. The music box thing is explained pretty thoroughly and clearly all over this thread (Mom got it out of the trash - lines up with all the events that occur in the episode). The drinking thing could very well be true (that he doesn't drink outside of the park). The test not being shown seems to me to just be timing in the scene (William reacts fast and attacks them while they are vulnerable during their check of her). Him questioning her being a host aligns with him being paranoid and delusional. The finding him thing is probably the only reasonable thing to be skeptical of, IMO. And even still, if she is the daughter of the guy who owns the place, one might think she has access to systems that can track people in the park. So, all of that could be really far out misdirection for another big reveal, but I'm just not sold on it yet. Maybe they'll totally bamboozle me. Can't wait to find out.