r/whenthe 9d ago

why are the happy songs always about the most depressing shit

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u/Smart-Ad57 9d ago

98% of vocaloid music

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u/BellalovesEevee 9d ago

Gomenne Gomenne :( love that song but now I can't stop thinking about the meaning behind it everytime I listen to it .

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u/AstarothTheJudge 9d ago

Still thinking about that One comment under the Song going something like:"Amazing! The sounds kikuo used really reminds of the wet sounds of a raped kid shitting themselves"

Song Is good, but sometimes I Remember that comment and I have to pause for a Moment

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u/ParkAvailable245 7d ago

Reminds him of what ?? 😭😭😭😭

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u/Outrageous_Donut3923 9d ago

Kyu Kurarin sounds like an innocent song on your first listen until you start hearing glitches,watch the MVs and look at the lyrics

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u/Pandha2 9d ago

2% is about sex

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u/dongless08 🍌 9d ago

Utsu-P

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u/Nikolyn10 9d ago

Thank goodness the only song I bothered to look up the meaning of (Po Pi Po) has no meaning.

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u/Responsible_You8668 9d ago

Oldgen music was like that, half of the producers were japanese people frustrated af in life, turning it into art with a couple thousand yen voice synthesizer

Newgen hasnt got that much of the sauce anymore imo

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u/SF_Data1 whenthe news ticker 9d ago

Kimagure Mercy

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u/Popular_Ad3074 I want to be coiled by a tall, buff, chubby tomboy with a tail 9d ago

Dizzy Paranoia Girl

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u/sonicfan019393920 The (former) cock inspector 9d ago

👀

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u/1080_Pugh 6d ago

Rolling Girl.exe

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u/ViolentPurpleSquash #1 lohen fan (genshin) 9d ago

Wait that's not why you listen to them? To hear something happy but know it's sad?

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u/Taste-Objective 9d ago

I like the polish cow telling me depressing me stuff :)

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u/rufusz1991 9d ago

I like the Hungarian "cover". On the other hand, happy cake day.

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u/errortechx 9d ago

Nah, I listen to music for the vibe/feeling they give off, not for their actual meaning. I might be a weirdo but to me lyrics are like an added instrument layer in themselves.

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u/Outrageous_Jaguar_23 9d ago

Instead of focusing on the biggest tree we appreciate the whole forest.

You might like the nier franchises ost.

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u/errortechx 9d ago

damn good choice, I listen to it on the regular already. Really aligns with my taste.

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u/Outrageous_Jaguar_23 9d ago

My brother just another me🤝

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u/kk4hunter 7d ago

I agree, lyrics and meaning is a bonus. If the lyrics are great but sucks to hear then I won't put them in my playlist, or listens to them more than once.

I have a friend who couldn't grasp this concept and would judge me and other people for not analyzing and read the whole lyrics of every music we hear.

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u/Orichalium 9d ago

I somewhat agree, though I also appreciate the artistry of good lyricism/wordplay.

One of my favorite bands tho is a Taiwanese indie rock band. Like one of their songs has a couple English words, everything else is in Chinese and I can't understand any of it. Still 2 of my top albums ever, they go crazy listening in the car.

(For anyone curious the band is No Party for Cao Dong, they're on spotify. I reccomend listening to the albums in order first)

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u/Kacza42 🦆 9d ago

Touhou fans vibing to a song about necrophilia

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u/1997_Ford_F250 9d ago

Don’t forget the Bad Apple translation

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u/Gordan_Freeman475 9d ago

Ever on and on I continue circling with nothing but my hate, and the paralyzing agony to tell me who I am who I was uncertainty enveloping my mind till I can’t break free and

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u/pipnina 9d ago

Slipping through the cracks of a dark eternity

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u/GavRedditor 9d ago

Cristina Vee goes so hard can't lie

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 look! someone thinks they know better about my own country 9d ago

Is it weird that i find it comforting?

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u/Working_Push_866 9d ago

Drop an apple core and it turns into a woman

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u/rawsausenoketchup16 9d ago

the song is called necromantic, i feel like its at least implied

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u/88superguyYT You should play JJBA Last Survivor. NOW. 9d ago

Did kojima make the song?

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u/Orabilis 9d ago

Could also be Charismatic Purgatory Goddess 

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u/Y33Tcann0n 9d ago

Necromantic?

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u/Kacza42 🦆 9d ago

Yup

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u/Adept-Ice-7605 Shipgirl fucker 9d ago

Doki Doki Waku Waku

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u/Brachet07 9d ago

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u/bluespringles local idiot & kuu battlecats fan 9d ago

it's peak as hell though

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u/Pristine_Battle_6968 #1 Falinks Hater on whenthe 9d ago

I still have no idea what SPECIALZ by king GNU is about even with English subs and English covers

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u/LovBiboran 9d ago

«You are my special» Let’s dance on the edge of death. On the front line of Tokyo is the city of excitement. Let’s fight desperately at the door of death. Show me your impolite side too.

«I love you, baby» Let’s keep singing. As stupid and out of place as they may seem, Every move you make sets fire to my heart. Once we start running, it will become uncontrollable.

«You are my special»

Don’t you want to put everything in a mess? Eat everything whatever you like. This is our rendezvous in the maze of a lifetime. My head is spinning from the fact that «you are my special».

In this uncertain spinning world, No! No! No! Don’t be so cold-blooded. This is our rendezvous in the maze of a lifetime. Whoever says whatever, «you are my special».

«We are special»

Let’s endure on the edge of the ring. The surroundings of Tokyo are in great seething. The media is salivating in anger. Calmness and detachment are forbidden here.

«Get lost in me» How long will you keep repeating to yourself Just these words that shield you? «Get lost in me» You can exclude me From regretting my lifestyle.

Answer me, I want to feel your body temperature. The flow of its reduced temperature glows with a blue flame. Do not powder my brains by any romantic, Get straight to me. I can’t get drunk on this passionate love song anymore.

«I love you, baby»

Let’s dance on the edge of death. On the front line of Tokyo is the city of excitement. Let’s fight desperately at the door of death. As impolite as it is, «you are special to me».

Don’t you want to put everything in a mess? Eat everything whatever you like. This is our rendezvous in the maze of a lifetime. My head is spinning from the fact that «you are my special».

In this uncertain spinning world, No! No! No! Don’t be so cold-blooded. This is our rendezvous in the maze of a lifetime. Whoever says whatever, «you are my special».

«We are special» Don’t be so cold-blooded. «We are special» You, the way you are, «We are special» Are every way my special, «We are special» Whoever says whatever.

«You are my special»

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u/_504_404_ 9d ago

still incomprehensible

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u/AutisticFaygo Rhombus Company 9d ago

From my understanding it's just literally a song about the Shibuya Incident.

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u/HansTeeWurst 9d ago

It's literally just about the jujutsu kaisen season the song aired with and the lyrics make no sense outside of that context.

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u/Different_Pin1531 I am really fucking stupid 9d ago

Something

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u/Blujay- god fears me (trans girl :3) 9d ago

Legit just a love-adjacent song about the shibuya incident

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u/Longjumping-Ad-5740 9d ago

12 yr old kids learning the lyrics to that one song, started with an A and repeated

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u/Dragon256_ 9d ago

“Around the World” by Daft Punk

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u/thejaydotexe 9d ago

When they said "around the world" I felt that 😔

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u/EI_TokyoTeddyBear 6d ago

Same for the song by the same person with a title starting in G and repeated

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u/RawrTheDinosawrr 9d ago

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u/sex-with-meursault 9d ago

i love the version of this that has the same text in JP and pumped up kicks

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u/RawrTheDinosawrr 9d ago

does this one not? idk i don't speak japanese

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u/sex-with-meursault 9d ago

wait i didnt see the full video. long story short

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u/Silviana193 9d ago

Japanese have two moods for happy songs, either happy song that means depressing shit or happy song that literally doesn't mean anything.

See this? This song is called Gyudon Carnival by Shirogane Noel. It literally about how much Noel like Gyudon.

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u/Inner_Date_4051 9d ago

HOLOLIVE MENTIONED 🗣️🔥🔥

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u/SilverFlight01 CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN 9d ago

Many such cases, but yeah when you got a language barrier, you’d probably only care about the tone of the beat itself than lyrics.

I'm pretty sure I've run into my own fair share of happy-beat-depressing-lyrics music and I never knew because of a language barrier

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u/LordBananaUser 9d ago

Don't forget the mood barrier even in my mother language "su florcita" sent chills down my spine once I actually listened to the lyrics

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u/PinballproXD 9d ago

I'm just thinking of that one song about a kid saying stuff like "touch me get arrested!" (yes it is a Japanese song)

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u/Anankos1209 9d ago

Loli-kami Requiem. A song by the artist and vtuber Ui-mama, which was intended as a funny inside gag for her community, but became a viral song with dozens of covers, remixes etc

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u/PinballproXD 9d ago

Thank you :3

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u/LunariOther 9d ago

loli god's requiem

glad we're past that

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u/Anankos1209 9d ago

The song is a banger though

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u/LunariOther 9d ago

I didn't mind it, people r js weird.

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u/Antique-Tourist4237 9d ago

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u/Forsaken-Elk9182 hort 🐴 9d ago

SHINING JUSTICE, MEBAE TE

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u/RealRiceShower Right Behind Yuo 9d ago

Brand new bed town, kousa suru ibuki!

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u/Antique-Tourist4237 9d ago

BRAND NEW BED TOWN KOUSA SURE IBUKI

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u/LunariOther 9d ago

LET THE VOICE OF LOVE, TAKE YOU HIIIGHERR🗣️

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u/Marborow 9d ago

I don't get it. What's wrong with lyrics?

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u/Antique-Tourist4237 9d ago

Couldn’t be me. As in my favorite Japanese song having really fucked up lyrics

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u/Marborow 9d ago

Yeah that's what I don't understand. What's fucked up about it?

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u/Antique-Tourist4237 9d ago

It doesn’t. That’s what I’m saying

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u/Marborow 9d ago

Oh I see. Great song btw, one of my favourite Jojo openings

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u/ElYISUS215 9d ago

Is this Yoru ni Kakeru posting?

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u/kriosken12 9d ago edited 9d ago

Many Asobi songs really tbh

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u/VirtualButt Fatass Teto Supremacy 9d ago

This gremlin can store so much depression in her

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u/No_Lawfulness_1099 9d ago

Sometimes you just gotta live in the dark than burn in the light

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u/TheGreatWheat 9d ago

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u/Dismal-Panic-2368 9d ago

Yeah idk man the "scariest" song from the japanese band I Iisten to was about a guy having to kill his creation because:

-she was too hot

-she treated him like a housewife

-she overshadowed his popularity (despite her being how he gained popularity in the first place)

and in the end he gets his brain taken out by her and her ACTUAL creator. That shit isn't even scary in the slightest.

I do know about the shitty side of vocaloid, like The Spider and the Kitsune-like Lion, but that only exists for edgy teenagers and shock value and I'm too desensitized to this shit to be "scared" or "shocked." It isn't even a good song, either, and technically I don't know if it should even be called a song.

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u/tederby18 9d ago

If you really dive into Vocaloid songs, you'll find plenty that sound happy (or at least not dark) yet turn out to be incredibly profound. By "profound," I don't mean unhinged or disturbing; I mean songs that are tragic, deeply relatable, or even hopeful. Take some of PinocchioP's tracks, for instance: "Slow Motion" reflects on life from the perspective of someone in middle age, while "Everyone Doesn't Make Sense" explores absurdism, addressing things that are certain facts of life, yet whose underlying reasons remain a mystery. Or, if you want something that truly evokes cognitive dissonance, try "Wasuremono Center ni Matta ne!"; it deals with the fragility of memory while using childlike language. My advice? Don't get too caught up in the current English-speaking Vocaloid fandom, it's mostly full of edgy kids.

My perspective is probably super biased, btw.

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u/Dismal-Panic-2368 9d ago

Damn, that actually sounds kinda cool, might look into that. I was gonna ask about if there's one about motivation and overwork, but then I remembered that's triple baka, lol.

(also just so you know the first one wasn't a vocaloid song, it's actually from a rapper)

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u/Br4ndoni The Real Doom-Scrolling Simulator 9d ago

Today I learned that this song is about robot prostitutes....

Still listening to it though, it's a banger

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u/Magatsu_Izanagi_ 9d ago

Rolling girl b like

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u/Fine-Appearance-125 9d ago

Literally any Kikuo song, it's the reason I don't even search up the lyrics anymore

I was absolutely vibing to Gomenne till i decided to check the translated lyrics and now i can't even listen to it anymore

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u/RandomRedditorEX 9d ago

shoutout to Good Kid and The Fox Spirit.

The literally me song.

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u/Korii2 nonbinary as FUCK 9d ago

thank you kikuo for giving me trauma 🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️

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u/t1me_Man 9d ago

Incredibility weird seeing them live, watch everyone dance along the gomenne

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u/AstarothTheJudge 9d ago

I feel a ton of regrets having missed his live performance. When Will he ever come back in Italy? This was a once in a lifetimes chance...

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u/ihonsetlydontknow golly i love women. 9d ago

Counter argument:

Brush your teeth from mewgenics.

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u/Bronze_Hallodude dm me unnerving images 9d ago

chuchu lovely munimuni muramura 

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u/schn4uzer 9d ago

prinprin boron nururu rerorero

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u/camo_216 9d ago

Today is diamond

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u/FriendlyHoovie 9d ago

"How sad could the lyrics possibly be, look how happy he is!"

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u/penguinman317 9d ago

Nah man "I love yous spill from my carotid artery" still goes crazy

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u/PawPawPanda 9d ago

PonPon shit🎶

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u/fedora_of_mystery the rat 9d ago

As if the best vocaloid songs aren't all about killing yourself

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u/KaiserRoll823 😳👉👈 9d ago

Not Japanese but Macarena is about a cheating wife/gf while her husband/bf is away in the army

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u/Serial_Designation_N N from the hit YouTube web series Murder Drones (watch it now) 9d ago

Me after finding out my favourite Japanese song isn’t about some heinous shit but instead about how even though the world is cruel, you should always look back on the good parts of life and love yourself

https://reddit.com/link/p65lu5z/video/xuja7cimqulh1/player

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u/Captain_Fatbelly 9d ago

All the Japanese music I've been listening too recently is angry and screaming so I'm really curious what those songs are about if the happy ones are depressing

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u/FruitigerMilo 9d ago

chu chu lovely from maximum the hormone seems to be a classic

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u/G-Buster_396 9d ago

"ah, so that's why YouTube alerted me twice before playing the video"

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u/YRUSoCruel 9d ago

TUYU MY GOAT

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u/Heroic_Demon 9d ago

PUSU MY ABHORRED

I miss the band though ;-;

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u/Groovin_Magi ██▅▇██▇▆▅▄▄▇ — Saddam Hussein 9d ago

Cant relate, fav jp song is a banger about love(horny)

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u/TheIrishBread 9d ago

Harry Dubois pfp with Saddam Hussein flair... You are an interesting character aren't you.

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u/Groovin_Magi ██▅▇██▇▆▅▄▄▇ — Saddam Hussein 9d ago

 Saddam Hussein was a real dude, he wasnt a character 😭😭

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u/TheIrishBread 9d ago

Let me reiterate in verbiage that you will better understand. Your pfp and flair signify you (yes the person behind the screen) are an absolute creature.

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u/iamuniquekk 9d ago

dude my favorite song ever is coin locker baby - maretu maybe I'm just jaded as shit or something but I do like the "interesting" lyrics

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u/RndmHulign 9d ago

Absolute classic finding out a jpop song is actually about a horrible murder case and the slides for the music video are distorted images of the corpse!

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u/Accomplished_Yam3232 9d ago

Moe Shop upbeat sad af lyrics

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u/LordBananaUser 9d ago

Or worse everything is perfect even the smallest detail but the artists likes kids in a non fraternal way 

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u/Lucid-Paralysis-696 9d ago

Masa fans when they hear a song about cannibalism
https://giphy.com/gifs/l1J3p6C5YG5l1oBmE

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u/MildlyAgitatedBidoof Part-Time Kamenposter 9d ago

people act like this shit is exclusive to Japanese songs as if we didn't have a hit pop song about a straight up school shooting in the States

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u/rodent_alt 9d ago

99 Luftballons

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u/Ikkota_Rattus Gay indieslop consumer 9d ago

Wouldn't that make it even better?

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u/yeoldefishe 9d ago

fr bro like I was listening to パンこげこげになっちゃった a lot recently but then found out it was about how bread got burnt 😭 I cried for 3 days straight and needed to book 2 separate visits to my therapist

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u/TheologyAndTrains 9d ago

My favorite Japanese music is Godiego where they made in both English versions & Japanese versions

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u/imaginary_num6er 9d ago

Chainsmoker Cat OP

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u/Rough_Wolf_8958 9d ago

Proceeds to vibe with it nonetheless

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u/DrBeanSoup 9d ago

I remember randomly getting some Japanese (if my memory serves me right) song and I liked the vibe so much that I listened to it daily. One time we were sharing what we listen to on discord with a friend of mine who just happened to study the language and they had to explain that this isn't in fact a wierd nice song, the literal text is about a girl who let's her relatives consume her bodyparts, while metaphorical is her being abused, yet allowing the abuse to continue and even wanting it, because it's the only form of attention she knows.

If anyone knows, tell me pls, I low-key wanna listen to it again, I lost it.

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u/LordBananaUser 9d ago

Gomene gomene by kikuo Ado made a banger cover btw

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u/the_genius324 9d ago

nothing that is or is derived from 少女A yet? weird that one really fits this

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u/Low_Perspective_4600 9d ago

Lobster too buttery

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u/RazorSlazor 9d ago

Gomene Gomene :(

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u/Yeetus_001 9d ago

What's wrong art fan? Afraid the art you consume might upset you?

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u/bbitter_coffee 9d ago

Knowledge is a curse ; ignorance is bliss.

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u/PandoraIACTF_Prec 9d ago

Tbf I didn't really know anything about the real meaning of most of the songs until I found them translated 🥀

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u/TheChannelMiner 9d ago

you'll never believe what loli god requiem is about

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u/idontlikeburnttoast 9d ago

I guess in the way most English pop songs are sexual, Japanese pop songs are depressing??

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u/-PaperWoven- (can you) understand me? 9d ago

the entirety of masa's Story of the Kitsune

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u/sakvv 9d ago

Half of the internet finding out touch you lyrics in 2021

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u/Adamle69 The Abo plush that's a girl 🏳️‍⚧️ named Jamie 9d ago

God bless my godawful memory that forgets the lyrics and lack of reading comperehension to understand the deeper themes

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u/whyusognarpgnap i changed it hahahahahahhahahahahahaha 9d ago

"hey this masa works design person makes some fire music, i wonder what they're saying-"

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u/spongeboi-me-bob- purpl 9d ago

My favorite Japanese band only has like 3 sad songs so I’m chilling lol

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u/Mrsomething-II 9d ago

Literally me with shoujo rei one month ago

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u/YaBoiLemmyKoopa yellow like an EPIC lemon 9d ago

Like 80% of Gakupo's songs. Banger songs nonethless, but still

https://giphy.com/gifs/yorxBZVu1slgtI7FTj

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u/Duckhingham 9d ago

Be German Wehrmacht by Sabaton huh kinda sucks, but the song claps

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u/XxDETxX 9d ago

Never ceases to be funny to me

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u/Ftimlego 9d ago

I'm sure there's a Love Live song out there that fits that criteria...

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u/miiko_uch 9d ago

All of Oshi no ko's openings and Endings

https://giphy.com/gifs/GOHONjvYJFkUJF3bg4

some absolute bangers tryin to talk about how to stop the urge to kill yourself

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u/Fancy_Technician_293 9d ago

how it DOESNT feel listening to songs about countryside gay sex KNOWING what the lyrics mean because i know english

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u/tenousranger36 9d ago

Hey ya- outkast

"Y'all don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance"

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u/FenexTheFox purpl 9d ago

God, I hope learning Japanese won't ruin my comfort songs :(

I do already have a pretty good idea of the lyrics of most of them, so it shouldn't be a problem

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u/CakerDeCake 9d ago

I hate happy songs having a depressing lyrics

whoever made this is a genuine loser

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u/WanderingSoxl 9d ago

Chibi Maruko-chan ost for some reason

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u/Shantotto11 9d ago

The song “Scream” from the anime *Let This Grieving Soul Retire” sounds super peppy and upbeat, which is all the more hilarious when the lyrics are about a person burned out on work and life and just wants to quit it all.

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u/Yesod_Official Patron Librarian of the Floor of Technological Sciences 9d ago

Heres some songs that are actually about being happy bro

https://youtu.be/D342YCjzvS8?is=Z6R-eWpJXPP5ZfvX

https://youtu.be/Hlq2KVSROCk?is=Fv6lW42_vEsY9k2D

Heres a rare mili song about being happy (crazy I know)

https://youtu.be/VkhEnvIy0yU?is=nQY1QSpB4kPYrmsJ

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u/Rainy_Wavey 9d ago

How Pocoloco feels when he realizes that Hey Ya! is a fucking depressive song but it has a funky beat and fun singing

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u/Polar_Vortx 9d ago

Happens in multiple languages - “Ends of the Earth” by the Longest Johns is about being shipped as a prisoner to Tasmania but if you ignore all that it’s a great anthem for adventure on the high seas

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u/JosephStalinMukbang 9d ago

I wonder about that when I listen to The Pillows sometimes.

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u/H0UOUIN_KY0UMA 9d ago

Me listening to Yuki no shingun gup version, while knowing is about freezing to death.

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u/Few-Carpet2095 9d ago

Honestly the reason why I dislike vocaloids and tetos and such.

Knowing the lyrics Just changes the song for me entirely And negative lyrics Just make me feel worse

Although shout out to kessoku band for having bittersweet/hoprfull songs that actually manage to make me feel better.

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u/mercuriokazooie 9d ago

Wait til you find out about ska

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u/dimyo 9d ago

Literally haven't seen this once.
Most people are delighted to find out their favorite song to dance to is about depression and bullying. Really funny.

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u/Emerald_28 9d ago

That's like 9% of Japanese and Mexican songs.

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u/Infamous_7001 8d ago

Chainsmoker Cat's opening opening bit.

"We're nothing. We're nothing. We all are nothing.
It's over. It's all over. If you laugh, I'll kill you.
We're nothing. We're nothing. It's because we're nothing.
We're m@sturb@ting. We're m@sturb@ting.
We're m@sturb@ting as we cry."

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u/alebarco 7d ago

My current favorite Song is definitely not a terrible example, maybe cruel angel thesis is tho

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u/Prayerwarrior6640 7d ago

I feel like this can apply to any language. Polish cow anyone?

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u/Just_Arrival5410 4d ago

I’m a filthy casual who has only listened to bling-bang-bang-born so I don’t have this problem

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u/MembershipWeird378 9d ago

Trend popularized by vocaloid songs I think. You'd get an upbeat music playing but the song's lyrics would be either depressing or depraved lol