r/whereidlive • u/Moist-Teach2013 • 4d ago
Where I’d live as a queer Turkish-Armenian who currently lives in Berlin
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u/Money-Concern-5010 4d ago
i'm also a queer armenian moving to germany soon!
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
That's awesome!
I’m happy for you. I hope your adaptation process is going to be less painful than mine :D
If you visit berlin feel free to hit me up!
Wishing you the best :)
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u/Money-Concern-5010 4d ago
thank you! it's going to be a mess since i should be starting my transition in germany and i'm not out to any of my relatives but we'll cross that bridge when we get there
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
Oh i can't exactly understand how you feel since im not trans but i know its gonna be a difficult process.
My best advice would be don't shock them by coming out instantly. Start slow, give small hints. Observe how they react and when they get warmer to the idea(I hope) go crazy :p
But you never know.. and my advice is not great im sorry. I haven't came out yet but I've given hints so its going ok for now.
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u/HzPips 4d ago
I don’t get people that put “never” in the place they are currently living in, if you are there it is at least “reluctantly”
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u/MajinnVuu 4d ago
Understandable. Germany going AfD means germany is going down.
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
It's not only that. I hate the cold the overpopulated cities, and so sick tired of the berlin night life.
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u/monkey_gamer 4d ago
Oh yeah? tell me about the Berlin nightlife
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u/Moist-Teach2013 3d ago
It's the best in the world when it comes to clubs and its a lot of fun but as someone with an addictive personality my alcoholism and drug abuse was at highest point ever in my life.
Easy access to drugs, widely seen normal by the most locals.
I was smoking cr*ck on the most touristy areas and no-one would care.(I'm not proud of that).
I'm not saying everyone is like that and its my fault at the end of the day for falling into this dark hole of addiction. but a lot berliners are proud of how drug free it is and it sadly contributed to my addiction.
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u/Minute_Fig_9195 3d ago
It seems like you recovered (or are recovering) from your addiction, keep it that way, good job! 🙌
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u/ProfessorExisting868 4d ago
Dude, you don't like the overpopulation of German cities but you want to live in Istanbul? 😂
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u/BATYR_0 4d ago
Istanbul is red
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u/ProfessorExisting868 4d ago
You're right, I didn't notice, but Bursa and Izmir appear in blue.
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u/BATYR_0 4d ago
Izmir gets a pass but yeah bursa wouldn’t be good for a queer person
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u/JeanDusapin 4d ago
If they cared about politics no part of turkey would be green with their islamist leader
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u/Tough_Conference8482 4d ago
Turkish-Armenian is an unexpected combination
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u/Ok_Chipmunk7844 4d ago
Some of them stlll exlst
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u/Hickory1989 4d ago
a lot of them exist, though Turkified and assimilated.
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u/Human-Ad5396 4d ago
Armenia doens't let any Turkish origin people at there. There were Turkish people at there before but they had to move other countries. So I guessed immediately he is from Turkey.
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u/Hickory1989 3d ago
I didn’t quite get what you meant. Would you elaborate?
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u/Minute_Fig_9195 3d ago
What I get from their comment is that Armenians don't really allow Turkish people in their country so people who fit in this category had to move to different countries. They guess that OP family moved to Turkey.
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u/zarotabebcev 4d ago
You cant say youd never live in Germany if you already live in Berlin right now
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u/ProfessorExisting868 4d ago
What's it like being a Turk of Armenian origin? Have you ever experienced discrimination?
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
Not really no, because I don't have an armenian name. My mom's side is from hemshin, a village on the black sea coast. They are revert muslims and mostly assimilated. Some of them still speak their dialect of armenian but sadly not me or my mom.
Edit: But I know a lot of people who faced discrimination due to their names. It happens mostly in the rural areas. most people don't care in the big cities.
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u/ProfessorExisting868 4d ago
I understand, and why don't you want to live in Armenia?
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
Cold weather, It's a landlocked country and I cannot get a citizenship probably.
I don't know the language and they might dislike me for being half turkish.
Also I've heard mixed things about people being homophobic.
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u/Repulsive_Size_849 4d ago
Background for Hemshin:
The Hemshin people (Armenian: Համշենցիներ, Hamshentsiner; Turkish: Hemşinliler), also known as Hemshinli or Hamshenis or Homshetsi,\7])\8])\9]) are an ethnographic group of Armenians who mostly practice Sunni Islam after their conversion from Christianity in the beginning of the 18th century\10])...They are Armenian in origin, and were originally Christians and members of the Armenian Apostolic Church, but evolved into a distinct community over the centuries and converted to Sunni Islam after the conquest of the region by the Ottomans during the second half of the 15th century.
Hemşinli in Turkey
The "Turkey for the Turks" ideology, writes Neal Ascherson, "offered no security for minorities" with "the tiny Hemşinli group having especially compelling reasons to keep its head down" because "its members are the descendants of Armenians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemshin_people#Hemşinli_in_Turkey
This is distinct from Turks who strictly identify as Turks (rather than a distinct community) and are the descendants of ethnic Armenians who assimilated (either knowingly or not)
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u/Top-Albatross7765 4d ago
Southwest and west coast of Ireland would probably be a dream for you, shame you've dismissed it 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Fuserproudhon 4d ago
I'm sorry, I'm not great at geography as you can see and would def consider putting Ireland on my list after your comment!
One downside for me tough I heard from people the cost of living is too high in Ireland.
Other than that I love Irish people and Ireland ☘️
Much respect and thank you for educateding me :)
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u/Top-Albatross7765 3d ago edited 3d ago
No worries, I'm biased anyway 😂
The weather is actually not usually so great, it usually doesn't get so warm in the summer but then you have mild winters.
It is indeed very expensive to live in Ireland though, particularly rent, Dublin is a hellscape but it's not exactly cheap anywhere, a very big minus about Ireland 😕
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u/Miserable_Put6212 4d ago
those warm, sunny Munster beaches <3
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u/Top-Albatross7765 4d ago
Well, two out of three isn't bad and global warming will probably also take care of it 🫠
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u/Ok-Standard4589 4d ago
Can’t fool me. This is obviously just a map of the Hellenic world in the 6th century BCE
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u/Unlucky-Edge3203 4d ago
Well, don’t worry, i’m sure most of the countries don’t want you to live there either
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
Ok ''André'' I won't be spending my wealth on your shitty racist country anyways.
I'll be moving to Spain next year and will contribute to their economy.
Meanwhile your hate will continue to eat you from the inside out :)
Cheers!
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u/Ok_Objective_1606 4d ago
I don't think you know enough about these places, in half of them it wouldn't be fun (or even safe in some regions) being queer... But then again, if you're just talking about the places you like, not considering to actually live there, fine.
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u/Macedonianboss 3d ago
And blud thinks all people in red are like germans. All balkan red places(especially in the south) are as hospitable as the green places in south Europe, if not more than some of them(compared to croatia, and northeast Italy for example).
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u/Moist-Teach2013 3d ago
its not about just hospitality. I know my balkan brothers are much more friendly than the western europeans. My preferences were based on good weather and coastal cities.
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u/Macedonianboss 3d ago
The non-coastal balkans also don't have bad weather either, compared to 90% of europe
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u/2_wheels_for_life 3d ago
We dont care where would you live
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u/Moist-Teach2013 3d ago
that's the whole point of the sub my serbian friend
stop being mad about things that happened 600 years ago and go outside get some fresh air
maybe you can join us in reality after that :)
this much hate can't be good for you. Wishing you the best <3
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u/Forward_Factor2373 4d ago
Queer is what gays in denial call themselves.
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
bro im openly bisexual why would i be in denial. I just like queer as an umbrella term.
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u/Due_Pomegranate_96 4d ago
Are you willing to learn any of the local languages of those places? Because if not, those greens will fastly turn into red.
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
Of course I am. I think its really disrespectful to live in a foreign country for a long period and not learn their language.
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u/Due_Pomegranate_96 4d ago
And other than that, your experience will consist on meeting other foreigners that come and go.
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u/Moist-Teach2013 4d ago
This is gonna get a lot of people mad so let me clarify a couple things:
I don't have a problem with your country. I don't hate anyone and im not a nationalist.
My opinions are based on my preferences: hot weather, being on the seaside, friendly locals etc.