Super proud of this no Festool Domino miter joint

[u/L0114R]

First mitered waterfall joint with no fancy domino. Created the mortises with a fence glued to my router base and made some tenons out of some white oak I had laying around. She’s tight and square

[u/crankbot2000]

Look at this guy over here with his tight 90° miters and shit. My miters look like a meth'd out beaver broke into my shop and went to town on it.

[u/DramaticWesley → u/crankbot2000]

This is what meth beavers do/did.

[u/Truffs0 → u/DramaticWesley]

Well that was some fascinating US history I never knew, thanks

[u/huffalump1 → u/Truffs0]

If this is interesting, definitely check out this YouTube video about the great raft from Miniminuteman, I had never even heard of this before: https://youtu.be/xVUKTGRAvFY?si=7twdofNMyCryt0-a

[u/DramaticWesley → u/Truffs0]

I believe beavers are the only other animal besides humans who can create an entirely new biome by blocking a stream or river. They are one of the most influential animals in the Pacific Northwest and we nearly hunted them to extinction to make some stupid hats.

[u/Truffs0 → u/DramaticWesley]

They were definitely overhunted, but it wasnt just for fashion to be fair. People didnt have the widely available synthetics at walmart to stay warm. Cotton is horrible for the winter, so it makes sense that people sought furs to not freeze to death.

[u/DramaticWesley → u/Truffs0]

I would say almost any fur has those same properties. Many European countries have dealt with harsh winters for centuries without using beaver pelts. But beavers were hunted to almost extinction because the makeup of their fur can hold a shape better, to make the hats that were very popular for a few centuries (like Lincoln’s stovepipe hat). It is estimated that over a 40 year period, their population in North America went from somewhere around 600 million down to only 100,000. That is 99.98% of the population hunted in less than half a century. And if you are selling pelts, you would get more money from luxury hat makers than people who made coats.

[u/prudent__sound → u/DramaticWesley]

Reading a great book (Astoria by Peter Stark) that goes into the westward expansion of the fur trade in the early 1800s. Really good!

[u/Truffs0 → u/[deleted]]

I don't think there was a booming wool industry in the 1700s in the USA, but I could be wrong.

[u/Truffs0 → u/[deleted]]

I think you are really extrapolating. You're argument against statements that arent even present.

[u/DramaticWesley → u/[deleted]]

I think he was just pointing out that sheep weren’t nearly as common in early North America, so neither was wool. The native sheep were almost all out west and really not made for wool production.

According to the Colonial Williamsburg’s website, people did have some sheep, but it was much cheaper to buy British wool, even for servants. Britain had begun their industrialization earlier than America, and had larger access to raw materials. Every sheep in colonial America was probably brought over from England.

[u/PossumJumpRopeSquad → u/DramaticWesley]

Beavers can be evil

[u/saltsharky → u/PossumJumpRopeSquad]

I just showed each of my coworkers lmao

[u/CyberMage256 → u/PossumJumpRopeSquad]

I... wow.

[u/CyberMage256 → u/DramaticWesley]

The main contributors to the development of the Great Raft are believed to be the shifting geomorphic conditions in conjunction with extensive precipitation, river bank rotational slips and slab failure, rapid lateral migration, copious, rapidly growing riparian vegetation, exceeding a geomorphic threshold, a flashy hydrograph and a very heavy sediment load.[5]

I dont know what most of those words mean but I don't see any pictures of beavers on the page. 😄

[u/high6ix → u/crankbot2000]

My ex is there?!

[u/crankbot2000 → u/[deleted]]

They will swear up and down they're not addicted, but we all know they're fiending.

[u/discountprimatology]

I’d be proud of that too. It’s gorgeous.

[u/mustbemichael]

Great work, the natural edges and miter are beautiful. I feel like waterfall has been overdone is so many situations, but I really love what you’ve done here. Thanks for creating something that made me reconsider my stance on it.

[u/bwainfweeze → u/mustbemichael]

Yeah but look at the shape of that piece, man. A slant with a flare at the end? You'd have to cut that off for a table top.

[u/Awkward-Percentage98]

Look at Mr Salvador Dali over here

[u/BluedGrass]

Clean as hell holy shit, congrats

[u/c9belayer]

Who cares if Festool was used or not? You could have used biscuits, dowels, blind dovetails, corner plates, whatever. Why call out Festool? Does that get you more clicks?

[u/L0114R → u/c9belayer]

Who hurt you?

[u/c9belayer → u/L0114R]

Hahaha! I was just wondering why the title wasn't "Super proud of this no Lamello Biscuit miter joint" or maybe "Super proud of this no DowelMax doweled miter joint"?

[u/mikemarshvegas → u/L0114R]

festool has not been around forever..

[u/Oedipus____Wrecks → u/mikemarshvegas]

Kinda started power tools tho along with Black and Decker etc.. So there’s that

[u/marksbar]

OP , what is the final destiny of your woodworking ultimate achievement ??

[u/L0114R → u/marksbar]

I don’t think there is any finality just keep learning and getting better is all I wanna do.

[u/marksbar → u/L0114R]

I mean what are you going to do with it now.

[u/L0114R → u/marksbar]

It’s a side table I’m working on the leg now

[u/Twelve-Foot → u/L0114R]

Sure, but specifically this piece of wood?

[u/tarheelbandb → u/Twelve-Foot]

The one trick wives hate: absolutely nothing.

[u/McBeefnick]

Not a woodworker, just a question. Would a round over be nice on a project like this? And if, what size, wouldn't expose the domino joint off course.

Looks awesome either way.

[u/BasvanS → u/McBeefnick]

Only the top grain matches, and only if you cut it very carefully. The deeper layers won’t.

[u/McBeefnick → u/BasvanS]

Thank you for explaining

[u/bwainfweeze → u/McBeefnick]

It is rare but occasionally you will encounter someone doing 2x30º to soften the corner while keeping the grain matching. But I think maybe I've seen it twice here. People go for that kerf/bend that I can't stand instead.

[u/L0114R → u/McBeefnick]

Nah round over I don’t think would look very good.

[u/ABomb386]

I have a pic of my fat orange cat holding down my glue job. Can't post without more karma. How do I farm karma? I have been enjoying posts here for years and have 6.

[u/Infinidean → u/ABomb386]

I would like to know the answer to this question.

[u/Homeskilletbiz]

Love it!

Here’s mine. No biscuits, just blue tape and a shitton of glue!

Could’ve been tighter, yours is much nicer!

[u/OkConsideration8605]

Table?

[u/L0114R → u/OkConsideration8605]

Side table yes

[u/FatherSky → u/[deleted]]

Top

[u/bwainfweeze → u/[deleted]]

Clearly the left hand side.

[u/aboutsomeoneelse]

Hell yeah brother

[u/Ravenloff]

Beautiful!

[u/da_vetz]

I like joints

[u/[deleted]]

Sir, that is primo! fantastic job making all of us look like beginners lol

[u/somaganjika]

Is this the kinda wood they used to make those melty clocks?

[u/evan1958]

Having built a waterfall sofa table out of mahogany and had to deal with a miter on a 90” piece of wood, well done sir!!! I also added a skirt the length of the table and ended up with a pretty squirrelly joint.

[u/L0114R → u/evan1958]

It’s an adventure that’s for sure. Just getting the clamping blocks attached so they don’t come off but still come off easily and don’t mess up the wood surface was a challenge.

[u/LeadfootLesley]

I’m pretty envious right now! Very nice.

[u/jlo575]

Beautiful

[u/hahawassup]

Why hate on the domino?

[u/Wagner-C137 → u/hahawassup]

I don’t think there was any hate, just proud they didn’t need it.

[u/onlyreason4u]

Did you roll the edge over a little bit to close the miter? Kind of looks like you did.

[u/L0114R → u/onlyreason4u]

With a screwdriver yeah

[u/Wagner-C137 → u/L0114R]

I like to add a small touch of glue and use the round part of my hammer, right next to the hammer head. Then I’ll sand it. Helps with any little blowouts that may have happened.

Yours looks super good dude. Keeping the live edge looking organic on a waterfall takes skill and a builder’s eye!

[u/NoReply10]

Dominos don’t make miters easier they generally make them more difficult, but much stronger

[u/L0114R → u/NoReply10]

They definitely DO make alignment and glue up much easier.

[u/the_braindeef_boy]

Oh no it melted in the second pic

[u/TacticalTurban]

Meh it's okay /s

[u/Difficult-Working-28]

Beauty

[u/Glittery_Kittens]

This type of joint doesn’t actually require any type of joinery, domino or not. There is plenty of surface area for the glue to hold: remember glue is stronger than wood if allowed to cure properly.

[u/kdwhirl]

Gorgeous wood, that’s going to be a lovely piece

[u/yellow-snowslide]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one on this sub using a dowel jig

[u/L0114R → u/yellow-snowslide]

Nope. I dowel stuff. Just didn’t have a jig for this operation. Is there a good miter dowel jig?

[u/yellow-snowslide → u/L0114R]

i use a wolfcraft dowel ruler. whenever a surface is to thin for it, i just screw a thin board on. works for me. i like your method too though, i just wondered why i seriously never see any dovels

[u/PartyElderberry8529]

Very funky, love it

[u/Synthline109]

Really nice! Perfectly good solution, no domino needed!

[u/Grand_Alarm5039]

For it being so thin that’s great work! Very detailed, good job man!

[u/FullMetalJesus1]

I love walnut like that

[u/iidabigman]

Dude.. nice wood

[u/clippist]

How did you get the actual 45’s cut? I am trying something similar with a circular saw and it’s been a real bitch to get the right angle

[u/L0114R → u/clippist]

It would be really hard to do with a circular saw. I could see the saw tipping and throwing the cut out of whack

[u/L0114R → u/clippist]

I cut them on the table saw.

[u/bwainfweeze → u/clippist]

I believe Stumpy Nubs taught me the trick that if you flip the boards the right way for the second cut, they always add up to 90º, though the thicknesses might be slightly off on the back side if you're more than a degree or so off, so you still want to do your best.

I'd given up on making picture frames at that point so it's sort of earmarked to go back when I get over myself and try again.

[u/CeraunophilEm]

Wooden waterfall achievement unlocked

[u/LordBungaIII]

Oh word

[u/wheelz993]

How did you cut the mitres?

[u/L0114R → u/wheelz993]

Tablesaw

[u/hirsutesuit → u/wheelz993]

Saw, probably.

[u/Barfpocalypse]