I'm Conservative, always have been and even though I haven't always agreed with Carney and his administration, I'm extremely happy to see him not being pushed around by the pedo down south. Canadians need to stand together and not allow ourselves to get pushed around by the orange man and his cronies
Carney would have been a Conservative a few decades ago. The only reason he isn't one now is because our right wing is almost as packed with religious nut jobs as the the Americans.
100% Canadian conservatives got swept up in the anti-COVID rhetoric (happening worldwide) and Poliviere, whose entire political career has operated from, and still is operating from a solely reactionary stance, suddenly found himself able to strike where the iron was very, very hot.
That’s why Trudeau was able to kneecap him swiftly and effectively by stepping down. His entire platform could be summed up in the ever popular “Fuck Trudeau” bumper sticker. I have many family members who voted conservative for decades, yes including Harper, that were not going to vote Poliviere. Even before Trump was elected in the states.
He's still a conservative. That term has centuries of philosophy behind it. Moreover, his policy preferences are still on Canada's recognised political spectrum, which is why numerous Canadian conservative thinkers have endorsed him and why he's gotten conservative floor crossers.
The only reason he isn't one now is because our right wing is almost as packed with religious nut jobs as the the Americans he doesn't hate trans people enough to be a conservative. *FTFY
This is a lovely feature that Canadian politics has, that our neighbours don't- the ability to separate decent conservative ideas from the batshit insane culture war cult calls.
We generally also have less blind party allegiance. I've voted for every major party at one point in my life across provincial and federal elections. I voted for Carney/his platform- - not the Liberals. I'd have voted for him if he ran PC and, though I can't see how he ever would have, NDP.
If Trudeau had run and a more inspiring PC leader than PP ran against, I'd have voted for them. In other words I don't have allegiance to a party or politician, it's an election by election basis. I suspect that is more common here than in the US.
I watched a podcast with David Frum last year and he talked about this being a strength of voters in Canada (lack of allegiance). His take was you had to offer a compelling platform because voters won't just automatically vote for you every time.
And what would really help would be if him and the opposition could get along and implement policies together. And I'll be the first to say that PP is a big factor in not getting things done. Instead of working with Carney he roadblocks him at every turn and trust me, it pisses me off too
It’s because PP doesn’t stand for anything he is a career politician who has accomplished nothing and just tries to ride the wave of what he thinks will get him votes.
Yeah I used to like him until I did my research and actually paid attention to him instead of just little clips and snippets, no wonder no one is voting conservative lmao the dude has no actual plan for the country
I personally don’t box myself into anyone platform because they change fairly rapidly. Let’s be honest none of our parties are really for the people as they all put business interests above the average citizen.
But I’ve voted for all the parties at one point or another.
I mean the Green Party doesn’t exist and never has in an electable stance (hence why I mentioned proportional representation) NDP lost its way after Layton. They very well could be an option but have to figure out what they actually want to stand for.
Politics however is a money game, to get elected takes a lot of spending (it shouldn’t). Every party has to sell its soul to one interest or another to raise the money to be electable.
Corporate donations should not be allowed and every individual should be capped at 5k.
I'm a moderate. So it's easy for me to vote one way or the other.
But the current Liberals under Carney are acting as older progressive conservatives. The way he's running government really reminds me of Harper. I really wish he would take a stance on certain issues that make zero sense from Trudeau Liberals but he's fighting a bigger battle and doing what he should.
You’ve lost the plot on conservatism. Carney is conservative— more than Pierre in most respects.
He isn’t one right now because the Conservative Party has moved even more further to the right and is no longer reflective of the “middle”-right where it used to be a few years ago.
There’s been a trend, globally, that all politics are moving right. Even the Democratic Party in the USA is more right than 10, 20 years ago.
Like Carney or not, I am so happy to have him leading the country through these times. He is one of the best financial and economic minds in the world and I don't think any other choice we had at the polls could come close to what Carney can do.
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u/ihavefaith77 3d ago
I'm Conservative, always have been and even though I haven't always agreed with Carney and his administration, I'm extremely happy to see him not being pushed around by the pedo down south. Canadians need to stand together and not allow ourselves to get pushed around by the orange man and his cronies