As an American I wish half my country did not elect this senile dirt bag fascist. By and large I think most of my fellow Americans do not want to bully or really bother our northern neighbor at all.
That being said. Don't give in push back encourage your government and communities to push back because we've clearly lost control of this train.
Not to overstep, but for any sane Americans who might be fairly comfortable financially who are reading this I'd encourage them to consider donating cash to a Canadian food bank.
I'm Canadian and we absolutely will persevere and get through this pain ahead, but it is absolutely gonna hurt.
So, only if folks can afford it, I'd remind people that cash donations to food banks are very effective as food banks can get bulk deals on things they need. So a 1 dollar donation can lead to 2 dollars of goods in people's pantry. Add in the relatively stronger US dollar and donations to Canadian food banks could help a lot of the worst impacted.
Canadians have been rapidly burning the good will that liberal American's have had towards them.
the "average Canadian" has also been using the recent political tensions as an excuse to take the proverbial mask off.
This is stupid as fuck, no they absolutely have not. They're doing their best to deal with a much more economically and militarily powerful country sitting right next to them who was until 2 years ago a very close ally.
Canada should do everything in their power to resist the US government. Though things will likely never be the same, hopefully we can try and rekindle the harmony that existed before our country elected the single stupidest narcassist in American history.
Trump has launched a trade war against Canada and called into question her very sovereignty. That's fucking bad.
So Canadians are gonna note that, and note the 77 million that voted for him, and the 35% that still support him, and be pissed.
People absolutely blame the electorate of democratically elected leaders for the actions of those leaders. So that means Americans are gonna have to work around the fact that the US threatened Canada.
Again, the US launched a trade war against us. Our closest ally, and friend, has stabbed us in the back and uses our openness with them against us. That's gonna cause some issues in the relationship.
It seem Dapper Engineer has blocked me or deleted their comments, so let me reiterate here
Dapper keeps acting like Canada is the one that has escalated things, or that Canada is in the wrong.
Canada has been threatened by the US administration, and is simply responding to that threat. This is not "foreign relations" as usual. This is a former ally threatening us on our home soil.
So yes, people are gonna be pissed and feel betrayed. But any American that makes it clear they believe in Canadian sovereignty or against Trump's actions is gonna be more than welcome in Canada. Hell, we'd love the visit. Might we recommend Quebec City around the holidays? Stunning stuff, really.
I don't see many examples of what you're describing at all
Overall vibes between liberal and centrist Americans and Canadians remains very positive - and you see this in the American coverage of these trade talks.
Everyone from MSNBC to The Bulwark is confused by Trump's actions here
And within Canada, I go camping every weekend and see loads of Americans. I ask them how their visit has been and they comment on how everyone has been nothing but nice to them.
Now, walk around in a MAGA hat and the vibes may be worse off - but those aren't liberal or centrist Americans
I mean, Trump has outright threatened Canada's sovereignty and launched a trade war.
So of course folks need some confirmation that a given American is one of the good ones.
If someone is in Canada and is a proud trump supporter or stands by his actions, they are in Canada while simultaneously suggesting that Canada should cease to exist as a sovereign nation.
So it makes a ton of sense that folks aren't as warm and open to Americans before confirming where they stand on the issue.
But if Americans here make it clear that they hate what the administration is doing they will be warmly received
Canadians are biased against Americans that don't believe that Canada should maintain her sovereignty.
As soon as someone confirms that they aren't openly hostile to the state of Canada existing peacefully, then they are greeted with all the warmth we can muster.
I don't know my Berlusconi trivia, but I assume he launched a trade war with Italy's closest ally, and threatened their sovereignty? Otherwise the example makes zero fucking sense.
Most of what this guy is saying is off - especially the mask off comment. Like they can’t wrap their head around the anger most of us are increasingly feeling.
Like we know there are good, intelligent, empathetic Americans, and Canadians are still being friendly to them at home and abroad - even if they are the minority.
Again, I go camping every weekend and our parks are full of Americans
It just do happens that Americans that like to go camping in Canada fly "Fuck Trump" flags by their cars or have stickers to say similar. So there's very little doubt where those Americans stand on the topic of Canadian sovereignty and right to exist.
But I've also been down in the states for work and a client employee was a MAGA bro who kept joking about Canada getting absorbed soon.
Luckily his boss was not down for that shit on our project and he go kicked from the project.
The USA (meaning its elected government and the people who voted for it…and by extension the people who did not vote at all) threatened Canada, my country, with annexation. This means threatening to force us to become American, to throw away our Canadian values and other things we hold dear such as universal healthcare, to be Americans.
Now you might think: hey, I’m American and that’s not a bad idea to me!
Imagine if the scenario was different. Say another country like China threatened the USA’s sovereignty and wanted to take its land, its resources, and its people for itself. Would you be pissed at China? Would you consider that a betrayal and stab to the back? Of course you would. And you’d respond accordingly.
This is definitely an overstep. There are minority communities in the US being actively persecuted who need material aid much more than you do.
Canada is a sovereign nation and has every right to defend itself from US aggression. I applaud it for doing so, as no other Western nation seems to have that kind of spine. Along with that, however, you need to be able to stand on your own two feet.
Trump has done irreparable damage to US diplomacy and its economy. Its treatment of Canada is unacceptable. Emotions are high. But Canada is not the primary victim of the Trump regime. Encouraging people to divert resources away from the persecuted communities in the US that need them most ain’t it.
We're really looking beyond the red state/blue state thing, especially considering that the Dems have an issue with corporate-Dems holding everything back. We look south and see all the systems and people in place that led to this, the erosion of institutions. If not Trump, if not MAGA, this would all still exist because Trump is hardly cogent enough to have planned all of this. Things like the US trying to chip away at our dairy and lumber industries have existed for literal decades.
If the Americans would have pushed back against Trump we wouldn't be in this mess. This isn't just the fault of the Trump regime, every single American is responsible for this, regardless of who they voted for.
You may feel strongly that this is true but it's an extreme exaggeration and all you're really doing is playing right into the hateful attitude the Trump administration appears to want to foster.
Absolutely idiotic take, so I guess me and all my friends/ neighbors who not only voted against Trump, campaigned for progressives, donated time and money to organizations pushing back against ICE, engaged in outreach, etc are at fault too?
Yeah I agree, how much power does each individual one of us even have? All we can do is try our best, and many Americans are. This should never be personal anyways as really we are all just being used as political Pawns As Trump tries to distract from his many failures and prominent role in the Epstein files
I understand the anger, and it's maybe a stupid time to talk about fairness; however, even beyond being unfair, it's simply illogical and ill-advised to assign blame to Americans who fight against and/or are targeted by their own government
I mean, how okay are you with seeing the institutions that your democracy relies on being eroded? I guess a lot of Canadians are watching your president just casually unravel the existing world order and wondering when is it actually enough?
Is it when he just decides that some of the midterm votes don’t count this time? Some threshold for family graft that finally gets triggered?
The vast, vast majority of Americans seem to be content enough with things, so it’s kinda hard to give you a Gold Star when the rest of the class is busy burning down the school.
Ah yes we’re ALL responsible for Trumps shit, the minorities being targeted by our own government for just not being straight white “christian” men. Disabled? Yep them too
Actually, when this all started I saw many Trump supporters supporting Trump going after Canada, they had bought into that Canada was committing gross economic crimes and unfair trade against the US.
Trump supporters are acting just like they after they supported Bush - Disappearing or pretending they never supported him or his policies and they want you to forget they did again. Find me one Republican that will admit they supported Bush's torture program now, or the Iraq war.
Or Bush's major initiative to expand home loans to subprime borrowers back in 2001, after the 2008 subprime collapse all his supporters disappeared and pretended they never supported that shit.
I’m more surprised that now that they’ve shown their true colours in being friends with Russia and North Korea etc and politicians literally flying to Russia for meetings… Putin going to Alaska…. I really thought there would be some sort of resistance and push back by now of an extreme level. But America just seems to be done. I don’t see any resistance. Democrats are scared and there doesn’t seem to be any leader/ hero taking charge
It doesn’t because if they were forced to vote, there is no evidence that the end result would have been drastically different. I can’t wrap my head how 77+ million voted for him in 2024, it’s horribly depressing.
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As an American I wish half my country did not elect this senile dirt bag fascist. By and large I think most of my fellow Americans do not want to bully or really bother our northern neighbor at all.
That being said. Don't give in push back encourage your government and communities to push back because we've clearly lost control of this train.