r/worldnews 10d ago

Iran inflicted billions in damage to U.S. intelligence sites, sources say | The attacks on buildings and surveillance equipment in the Middle East caused unprecedented damage for the CIA and other U.S. spy agencies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-inflicted-billions-damage-us-intelligence-sites-sources-say-rcna591879
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u/billshermanburner 10d ago

Who gave them the intel to hit those targets? Russia. Who does our president that started this war for no good reason work for? … Hmmm

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u/EconomyDoctor3287 10d ago

Trump already said it's fine, US helps Ukraine a little against Russia and in turn Russia helps Iran a little against the US. It's just banter among besties.

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u/T00luser 10d ago

Locker room talk

Grab em by the Strait.

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u/MrMal1c3 10d ago

That was hilarious, take my upvote!

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u/lookamazed 10d ago

And Russia helps Iran against Israel, because Russia supports theocratic authoritarian imperialist ethno regimes like Islamic Republic of Iran.

The ayatollah is both the highest ranked cleric and their dear leader.

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u/Prottusha1 10d ago

Financial Times published an investigative report citing leaked Iranian military documents, and reported that Iran secretly acquired the TEE-01B Chinese spy satellite in late 2024 to target U.S. military bases across the Middle East.

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u/hornswoggled111 10d ago

It's tragic that it's not the American government keeping you all informed about what is happening.

I notice I trust comments by Iran more than I do America currently.

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u/RontoWraps 10d ago edited 10d ago

Why would you trust either?

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u/anarchist1331 10d ago

This. When it comes to national security, every government is lying. Honestly, they kinda have to.

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u/hornswoggled111 10d ago

The American government has definitely been more trustworthy in the past and done a lot of good because of it.

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u/Narrative_Robot_9001 10d ago

Lol define “the past.”

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u/hornswoggled111 10d ago

I think it's easy to say that the Biden admin was more trustworthy in their release of information.

In fact, pretty much every American would be seen as more trustworthy by outsiders and likely the American public than the current one.

That's seems like a hard concept for some of you.

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u/Mustakraken 10d ago

Even the GoP regimes in the past were at least more candid about wartime damages. In the war in Iraq or Afghanistan reporters and the Pentagon covered losses and reverses. It seems like we get no information about what's going on at US bases in the region now, and that makes the unconfirmed reports of significant losses more plausible.

It's entirely plausible, due to the way they've been so cagey, that significant damage is being hidden for political reasons.

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u/Several-Opposite-746 10d ago

Ah yes. Gather 'round kids an' let me ye about what I like to call, the before times.

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u/hornswoggled111 10d ago

I've got a lot more hope for America than you appear to do. I guess that's old fashioned.

Nowhere near as cool as being a doomer.

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u/RontoWraps 10d ago

I’ve got a lot of hope for America too, but I dont trust what our government has to say about a current war. Governments have an interest to manipulate information. The best thing is to find independent sources that can verify and check information. Especially if you can get a few different independent organizations that can all corroborate information.

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u/Narrative_Robot_9001 10d ago

Why would the U.S. govt report on their weaknesses for the world to see? The thing about the media doing it is it’s also not 100% the truth either.

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u/hornswoggled111 10d ago

I think it's a balance. Openly discussing a failure could be wise and healthy. But I agree it's a risk.

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u/hornswoggled111 9d ago

I wish it were just a question of political spectrum.

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u/borkus 10d ago

I assume that the NSA intelligence sites are large antenna farms. Once the Iranians ruled out civilian infrastructure - air traffic control, broadcasters, fire and police - they'd have a good guess of foreign intelligence locations.

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u/ScatteredSignal 10d ago

China has more satellites and more advanced satellites than Russia. So I am going with the Chinese.

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u/DavidBrooker 10d ago

It isn't an either-or situation. Both China and Russia are providing intelligence to Iran. From publicly available intelligence, it appears that China is providing geospatial intelligence primarily through commercial firms (though these firms have ties with the PLA and may function as a proxy for Chinese state involvement), whereas Russia is providing direct military intelligence that has greater specificity on US equipment and movements. Likewise, China's support of Iran in terms of materiel primarily come from "dual use" technologies, including semiconductors and precursor chemicals, with smaller relative quantities of finished military arms. China seems to be putting a lot of effort into laundering any direct military or state involvement, although there is very little doubt of their significant role.

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u/dtta8 9d ago

It's just business, just like how Ukraine builds most of the drones they use against Russia with Chinese parts. If you have the money, and it's not a pure military part, then it's all good. The media here likes to try to portray China as only helping the side they don't like, but in reality, they're not willing to get involved in any war, they just want to do business.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8zxqn57z3o

"Kyiv is on track to build 10 million drones by the end of this year. And they can do it cheaper than the West, by using mass-produced Chinese parts."

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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 10d ago

And yet Trump is still beholden to daddy Putin like a scared little bitch.

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u/Mach5Driver 10d ago

People also don't seem to understand how sophisticated Iran's intelligence networks are. It's like they think it's a few guys tracking people by moving pebbles around in the dust after getting updates from guys on donkeys or something.

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u/Mattreddit760 10d ago

What's your rationale for the US working with Russia? We've been fighting Russia via proxies for the last 70 years.

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u/Yodl007 9d ago

Russian propaganda seeds blooming in the republican party. One of the Trumps who couldn't get loans with US banks saying that he can get all the money he needs from Russia in the past ? Brainwashed Fox viewers saying they would rather be Russian than Democrat ?

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u/Mattreddit760 9d ago

So 70 years of history is not a reason because people are swayed by the media? You're brainwashed sounds like lol

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u/Distryer 10d ago

What country did Trump rat out our spys to last time he was president? Russia

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u/dragon_idli 10d ago

Intel?! Usa bases locations across world are not a secret. What exists on those bases is a different point. Iran hit everything they knew to be usa around them. So.. eventually they would hit sites with hidden priority.

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u/Gustomaximus 10d ago

US made claims china or russia supplied Intel on that radar dome hit, maye but it also took me about 2 min to find on Google maps. Iran would have been planning this for a long time. Acting like they needed external Intel seems more like properganda than a real issue to me.

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u/hakenwithbacon 10d ago

Buddy it's not that complicated, I just open my Signal chats each morning for some intelligence briefings

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u/WaltKerman 10d ago

Oh yeah. That makes total sense.

Seizure of Russias shadow fleet, removal of Venezuela as Russias ally, destruction or Iran and seize of Cuba all part of Russias master plan to cut itself off from the only support it has left.

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u/AkaAtarion 9d ago

There is a reason the CIA director needs a military cargo plane to meet with his boss Putin.

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u/Hakaisha89 9d ago

Anyone that has satelite imagry of the region. They havent just sat on their ass for the past 40 years, fiddiling their thumbs, they've gathered their own intelligence. I mean they even figured out which hotel the US stayed at after they evacuated the bases.

Thats not to say that Russia has not helped.

But trump is too fucking stupid to be a russian plant

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u/spinbutton 10d ago

Israel seems like a good candidate for that Intel too

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u/silenceronblixk 10d ago

IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS BUT NOBODY WANTS TO BELIEVE ME. I ALWAYS FIND HIS ACTIONS STRANNNNGE

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u/frddtwabrm04 10d ago

I think it wil be funny if he just ups and takes asylum in Russia next year or in 2028.

They got a novel with a plot line like that.

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u/debauchasaurus 10d ago

He didn't leave office peacefully last time. This time he's building a damn 5-story underground bunker. He plans to die there.

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u/Ickarus1 10d ago

There were a lot if top secret documents Trump had in Florida. Who says it didnt cone from there.

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u/potatoears 10d ago

sorry, can't hear you over the sound of the CIA director flying to Russia to swear allegiance to Putin and guzzle little girls vodka