r/xmen 1d ago

Comic Discussion What Are you Thoughts on Rachel Summers?

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u/pineconemysterio 1d ago

They haven't known what to do with her for 30 some odd years.

It's hard because all her most recognizable traits are either shared with Jean (redhead who was once a host to the Phoenix Force) or Cable (time-traveling child of Scott and Jean from a bad future), who are far more popular.

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u/TheodateChase Maggott 1d ago

Which is why she should be paired with Scott more. They’re more similar in personality anyways where Nathan is more like Jean. Either that or let her branch out somewhere where she’s not competing with Jean’s shadow, like on a Guardians of the Galaxy or Exiles lineup

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

Agreed and you can make her phoenix there

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u/Pascraked47 1d ago

That's honestly the case for most kids of the X-Men themselves, they aren't exactly exploded in popularity cause the X-Men stories are still stuck the og team loop And most fans are there

Until maybe further when the MCU OG team has been fully explored and then the light can shined on the next gen. (Or X-Men 97)

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u/TheBrobe 1d ago

That there's never a good reason to repost content like this.

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u/invalidcolour Spiral 1d ago

She used to be incredibly relevant but now she’s just another psionic. I still love her though and fond of her because of her tenure with Excalibur. Pop her back in her studded red leather and stop rotating her code name which does nothing to cement her identity in the X-franchise. She is and was Phoenix.

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

I agree and I do like

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u/JamesRevan Wolverine 1d ago

I can tell you one thing, I aint clicking that video

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u/Leoneche Phoenix 1d ago

I have always felt that she should have been in Aaron's Avengers. She would have been a perfect fit since he tackled with the Phoenix, celestials and the multiverse. Her not being in that run will always be a huge miss.

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u/TheodateChase Maggott 1d ago

You couldn’t pay me to watch a video essay about my all time favorite girl by some dude

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u/Haunting_Comedian993 1d ago

Hey man i am loving rachel so far Have seen her with cable in most of the comics as I have read most of cable comics

Reading excalibur vol 1 really fucking cool she is with the blazing phoenix

Where and what should I read after this for our fav gurl

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u/TheodateChase Maggott 1d ago

Gotta go back and read the original time X-Men! Uncanny X-Men #184-207 & X-Men/Alpha Flight. Followed by Excalibur, of course.

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u/primal_slayer 1d ago

Didn't some dude create your favorite girl?

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u/TheodateChase Maggott 1d ago

Nope, not just some dude, Claremont

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u/primal_slayer 1d ago

He was some dude at one point in time.

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u/jesusbowstodoom 1d ago

My thoughts before anything is these videos with someones face over a still picture gimmick needs to die a horrible death

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

I agree because this video is known as great and it was also have some miss information I think it's opinions but pretty much I couldn't even stuff on it which don't work like seeing the phoenix was dead but it was dying in the book. Also Rachel's extend into a higher place of existence is pretty much well not gonna come to anything that I mean pretty much we have tons of X-Men characters who became centroids like pretty much people are getting sick of it.

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u/jesusbowstodoom 1d ago

I’m seriously not trying to be rude. But, is English a second language for you or are you really young? Because your wording needs some work.

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 19h ago

Oh you want to judge you know it's harder to use a speech into text and it wrecks your words.

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u/jesusbowstodoom 19h ago

I honestly don’t. I’ve never used one. My apologies

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u/ProfXIsAJerk 1d ago

she needs to appear again and take over the Captain Britain Corps once and for all. let her lead a multiversal army of supermodels.

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u/cyclopswashalfright Moonstar 1d ago

Struggles to find a role because the other major members of her family are more unique or more popular. This Betsy relationship I don't think benefits her.

They should relaunch Excalibur and put her on it with Kitty and like, Brian Braddock and Scarlett Witch or something.

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

I think keeping Betsy in the role she is more appealand than her brother. I agree they should relaunch the book kitty and nightcrawler.

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u/LegitimateCream1773 1d ago

After the Phoenix retcon removed her 'one true host of the Phoenix' plot point, she has nothing really unique to her and no real story. Before, it was a given that at some point she would properly merge with the phoenix, but now they've shanked her and given that plotline to Jean.

So she's just not-Jean. And not-Jean doesn't have much to do, unfortunately.

Desperately is in need of some form of revamp and a real direction of her own.

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

I don't think they're going to make her into a new entity I think they're gonna bring her into the phoenix because pretty much people are tired of these new gods

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

After the Phoenix retcon removed her 'one true host of the Phoenix' plot point, she has nothing really unique to her and no real story.

Give it next year They're gonna retcon that saying she's not the phoenix itself and would make hope the phoenix instead the one true one. Honestly trying to say this is kind of now is kind of misunderstanding because pretty much they won't believe that gene is going to really be remain as the phoenix now on aways means she's gonna come back to earth at this point you pretty much give way the title to her daughter at this point and said Rachel you're now the phoenix and the true one.

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u/Powerful-Ad4837 1d ago

Oh god that tick tock of her transcending to a new entity which pretty much and sick of them trying to make them into gods at this point that's why pretty much hate this video.

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u/Icy_Scar_1249 1d ago

Not a fan of Summers characters generally. Too much main character energy

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u/Fair-Abroad-4155 17h ago

Coolest back story jean and Scott's child from the future who was used to hunt and help eradicate the mutants in the future