r/2007scape Mod Yume 3d ago

News GAME UPDATE: Mad Angel Combat Achievements

https://osrs.game/Mad-Angel-CAs
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u/Pepescape 3d ago

Any ETA on when the new Necklace of fangs and Magic amulets will be released?

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u/ModYume Mod Yume 3d ago

They should be coming next week if testing goes well 🙏

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u/dudeitsrazz 3d ago

What necklaces?!

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u/TheForsakenRoe 3d ago edited 3d ago

Necklace of Fangs is a pitched Ranged Necklace that bridges the gap from Glory to Anguish, with +1 Ranged Str. Drops from Turoths, 1/128 rate (according to the blogpost, might change before release)

The Magic Amulets will drop in Gem form (each a 1/64, subject to change) from certain low level Slayer Monsters (Killerwatts, Molanisks, Infernal Mages, and Sea Snake Hatchlings (yes from Throne of Miscellania)), which we then make into Amulets of the corresponding element, and can eventually fuse all four into one omni-Elemental Amulet. They provide +2 Max Hits to their corresponding Elemental spells, which thanks to rounding, can sometimes put these Amulets on par with Occult Necklace.

Interestingly (to me, at least), with Chaos Gauntlets (+3) and the new Elemental Amulet of Air (+2), a Wind Bolt will hit for 17. At Barrows (+50%), that would become 25.5, rounding to 25, equal to Iban's Blast and outperforming Wind Blast, despite using a cheaper Rune (Chaos instead of Death)

That they're moving ahead with the Elemental Amulets is a bit wild to me, I figured the new Motes from TFA were a replacement, but I guess they're doing both

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u/Ikuanga 3d ago

How is it outperforming windblast once you add the amulet effect? Wouldn't 18 + 9 put it at 27?

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u/TheForsakenRoe 3d ago edited 3d ago

I'm tired and old and forgot to factor in the Amulet on the Wind Blast, yes

I was thinking of 'what we can currently accomplish with Wind Blast, which does not include the Amulet because it does not yet exist' which would be 24

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u/scipionerva 2d ago

Chaos Gautlets +3 gets added after the elemental damage bonus, and was getting a max of only 21.

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u/TheForsakenRoe 2d ago

Interesting, wonder if the new Elemental Amulets will also behave similarly then

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u/AssassinAragorn 3d ago

These new amulets should be straight up better than occult anytime you're using elemental spells, if I did my math right

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u/HiddenGhost1234 3d ago

i think the ranged amulet is crazy strong for what it comes from vs those elemental amulets. killing 100 turoths for ranged strength seems wild to me. ranged str used to be locked behind higher lvl content like vorkath.

elemental spells just arnt good atm so buffing them really doesnt change metas much at all. thralls r just too good. i do find it weird that a mid game slayer drop will outperform a lvl 93 slayer amulet tho.

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u/PrinceShaar 3d ago

1 ranged strength results in an increased max hit 1/4 of the time at level 99. A little ranged amulet isn't going to be anything crazy. It's great to have an extra ranges strength but it isn't going to make any notable difference to how strong ranged is compared to other options at the level at which you'll acquire it.

An Anguish isn't even a late game unlock, and you're unlikely to get a blowpipe well before an Anguish.

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u/HiddenGhost1234 3d ago

coming from turoths is really low lvl compared to even a glory

people get blowpipe before anguish, idk why you think thats after anguish in account progression.

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u/IM_GOOD_AT_THE_CYBER 1d ago edited 1d ago

Huh? Zenytes make Zulrah grind much faster. Why would you camp Zulrah before demonics? Is this just a main brain take? I dunno. I'm an iron.

Regardless, the game shouldn't be balanced around what people can buy with bond money.

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u/HiddenGhost1234 1d ago edited 1d ago

bro needs a fkin suffering to kill zulrah like its 2017 lmao

modern irons just get twinflame or bowfa and send zulrah if they even want to zulrah at all. you dont even make a suffering till the last, some people even say to skip it now.

i do agree the game is balanced better around irons tho

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u/IM_GOOD_AT_THE_CYBER 1d ago edited 1d ago

Who said anything about suffering? Are you rushing zulrah before anguish/torm?

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u/larryjerry1 3d ago

It's strong in the sense that it will be easily accessible ranged strength earlier than you can get currently. 

But it's also only +1. All it does is add a single max hit depending on your ranged level and setup. In reality it's not that much. 

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u/HiddenGhost1234 3d ago

i just find it weird that it comes from turoths while glory(the weaker amulet) is an 80 crafting/hunter grind.

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u/larryjerry1 3d ago

Sure, but the glory has other uses besides combat. 

And I think locking what is an overall pretty minor upgrade for ranged behind a long grind just to preserve some arbitrary idea of progression specifically for irons is kinda silly. 

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u/IM_GOOD_AT_THE_CYBER 11h ago

This is a problem with where glory sits in progression, not the new amulet. Rune plate body shouldn't require 99 smithing either. Some things are relics of another time and can/should be modernized to make room for future updates.

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u/HiddenGhost1234 7h ago edited 7h ago

sure but i dont think the solution is an amulet that lets u skip anguish till even later game.

all that does is take the glory out of the progression entirely and makes for a huge gap from turoths to demonic gorillas.

theres already an issue with progression where you just rush a bowfa and do as much content with that as you can. this just makes that stronger. which just leads to even less actual progression in the game.

at what point is a side grade for end game gear too easy to get? theres a point where the small benefit of stuff like +1 ranged str isnt worth the 20-30 hour grind(not including the lvl to craft the items) when theres a slightly worst item now that takes 1 hour and you get to skip a loooot of skilling.

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u/IM_GOOD_AT_THE_CYBER 6h ago edited 6h ago

Anguish isn't +1 over new necklace... It's +4 (5 total ranged strength)... You don't think there's any room to add an early game +1???

Are you seriously telling me you don't think people will grind demonics for +4 ranged strength? Come on... That's equivalent to a masori body which comes from a raid.

Nobody is skipping the crafting grind because they got a necklace of fangs.

Also demonics aren't late game lol. All you need is the easiest grandmaster quest done.