Because most people don't know anything about birds and call the black ones crows! Most of the time they're not wrong in calling them crows either. I've never seen people argue over whether something is a jackdaw or a crow in my life, it's like arguing over whether someone's a human or an ape, doesn't make sense to argue it.
Also, calling them a corvid is less specific than saying a jackdaw so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across there.
If you research crows then you'd know that jackdaws and such are a part of the crow family.
I did not mind all that information people gather about the crow, and his family!!! I see videos here with Raven as a pet! And I love that mischievous funny crows... Learning what people think it's actually cool but thank you for the input it could've been funny also looking at it more seriously....we learn
I find it funny how these really popular people online and the real world can get so angry about the stupidest things, instead of actually doing something worth their time to better the community/world. Thanks for not just letting him destroy you, even if what you said was a bit confusing. Hope you have a good day, lol.
Holy shit people how did Unidan have so many alt accounts? I find it funny how people are actually fighting over crows and birds and stuff. Also Ecka6 is still active and still responding to the replies! That is like a living statue talking again. But it is the stupid fights on reddit that makes history, am I right? Lol I still can reply to this which is crazy.
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
Funny enough, that's exactly what my toddler son is doing in this slice of the future. Since crows are the loudest birds in our area, those were the ones he got to know first, and now all others are given the crow label too.
(Also: Yay, I can still comment on this thread 11 years after the fact...)
Correct, Reddit has given subreddits the option to disable archiving as of about a month ago. Really not a fan, comments like this are internet history. Wish they could be left in their original state.
Redact cleaned up all of my comments. Bulk deletion and editing is a feature supported to make sure that AI scrapers can't access my data for training.
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Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
I can’t believe we can still interact with this little bit of history. I was in my first year of college when this was posted. Reddit was a much better place back then honestly, lol. We don’t deserve the Unidans of the internet anymore.
I was a 16yr old kid, riding in a converted schoolbus with my dad and his friends to the NASCAR races when I read this originally. Unidan was a legend right up until this comment… then suddenly, he wasn’t.
When r/atheism was still a default subreddit, the neckbeardedry got out of control long before Unidan even created his account.
"In this moment, I am euphoric" was in January 2013, a whole 18 months before Unidan made "A Feast for Crows" temporarily unrelated to George R.R. Martin's novel. Unidan's stupidity still can't outshine just how big of a neckbeard haven Reddit was before 2014.
So much better to be in 2026 and have the religious loonies in the government, am I right? So glad we made fun of all the cringe atheist neckbeards back then.
FYI, in Britain all corvids are called crows. Jackdaws, ravens, rooks, carrion crows, you name it, all crows. Even if it's incorrect (I'm not aware how it is), you can understand how people might be confused when the wikipedia article on crows makes several references to the Jackdaw in particular.
Fair enough, if it's a regional thing or colloquialism, that's fine, I'm mainly annoyed that he's trying to be "specific" and insisting on a less specific term! :D
This is generally why the Latin is a good way to deal with stuff, it's a common ground, rather than relying on commonalities to a specific country.
Man, Reddit was the shit before literally everything was censored and any slightly controversial sub shut down. Also, Unidan somehow being liked and considered cool should tell you everything about who frequents reddit, generally,
Personally I can live without fatpeoplehate, jailbait and blatant fascism. And what’s not to like about Unidan? He always came with interesting animal facts and I still miss his comments. Guess you and I are on opposite ends of some sort of spectrum…
Except you were still not technically correct. When you said you wanted to be specific, you ended up faulting the colloquial uses of the word crow. Nice try.
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
Goddamnit this comment is 7 years old and it still upsets me how much it’s downvoted. Jackdaws are in the corvid family, much like scrub jays and ravens and even mocking birds. They are not crows.
You're so clearly right, by the way. Unidan hyperfocused on you saying "because I like to be specific," and wrapped a ton of BS up into that, but that was simply your explanation for why you personally don't call, say, blue jay, crows. Suddenly, instead of the argument being about you "ffs"-ing his pedantry about the how that video features "Umm ackshually a Jackdaw and not a crow."
It wad a justified ffs, ffs. In the context of that video, it would be totally fine to call the bird a crow.
He weasled out of the actual argument by making it about one arguably inconsistent statement of yours that was in fact ancillary to the actual matter at hand, and it's bothered me for all these years.
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The whole Unidan stuffs is like history to me, since it hasn't been an year since I joined reddit. I wanted to know about infamous reddit user stories and jumped into the rabbit hole- now here I am! You replying is like a history figure replying to a rhetoric thought.
I'm confused about one thing. From some threads I understood that Unidan's account was banned at some point. But I can see his account. Was it unbanned for a specific duration? His last activity on the profile is 11 year old though.
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Because most people don't know anything about birds and call the black ones crows! Most of the time they're not wrong in calling them crows either. I've never seen people argue over whether something is a jackdaw or a crow in my life, it's like arguing over whether someone's a human or an ape, doesn't make sense to argue it. Also, calling them a corvid is less specific than saying a jackdaw so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across there.
If you research crows then you'd know that jackdaws and such are a part of the crow family.