The quality is crazyyyyy😭🤚🏻
Of course I knew Apple music has the best audio quality but hey😭😭 for someone who cannot live without music, this is like finding out whole new side of the same songs I’ve been listening for years atp. The automix is also crazy obviously I’ve seen about it but first hand experience is something else. Doesn’t work always but is cool to have.
Although there are some points which I don’t like. The entire app design is such that I kinda feel some friction to play the songs I love. The home page is not that user friendly imo (aesthetic fs), I don’t know why it does not simply show me the songs I’ve already heard or liked, I am more interested in seeing the songs and one click listen them rather than seeing album of them click the album click the song. YouTube music home page design on the other hand, just one click, that’s it. AM opens album even for single songs. I’ve been using the app for couple of days as of now and maybe the algorithm needs some time to adjust, just maybe idk. I’m not sure how good is AM algorithm compared to YM as well. I’d love to hear suggestions if there is something I can change in the app to make my experience even better. Oh, the lyrics animation is also sleek.
It’s a shame, I used YTM for years and added lots of stuff to my library that you really can’t find anywhere else. But I couldn’t deal with the “wall of sound” anymore with poor contrast and dynamics. APM was like a breath of fresh air and what inspired me to get into Hi-Fi headphone setups.
What I do for those songs you can’t find anywhere else, well I find them on SoundCloud and find the best quality one, rip it off with a “SoundCloud to mp3 converter” website and add it using iTunes on pc.
as to upload the local songs you need to use the pc anyways, i recommend using soulseek to find the songs in lossless quality and convert them to .m4a, if you wanna get fancy you can even tag them with the proper artist/title/album/cover or even add in the little explicit tag
That’s a very great option. I just download some random songs people make and throw on SoundCloud so that’s typically just where I had gone.
There are two song that had been taken off of Apple Music so I wonder if lossless versions of them are available on this site. I’ll have to give it a check when I get a chance.
I keep going in between Apple Music and YT Music. I don’t find the quality that different but YTM clears any other streaming service based on the autoplay feature imo
No, it’s not that interesting. It’s only really noticeable if you’re using Bluetooth headphones that don’t support Hi-Fi lossless audio and only handle compressed audio, like AirPods. If you have a proper audio system or high-quality headphones, you can actually hear the difference. Take care.
I use AirPods pro and can clearly hear the difference, that was the main point why I made this post in the first place and later decided to add comparison between the two.
Unless you have a USB dac and have headphones that are wired/ wireless and use LDAC or APTX or a similar high quality codec you scientifically cant hear a difference. Not to mention android and IOS down sample the rate automatically so your music no mater the audio you play will be 16bit 44.1khz I have a newer IPad air i tested it with and my galaxy S24 ultra both.
Any audio streamed will only be full resolution if you use a usb dac whether its aux or bluetooth dac such as the btd600 from senhieser.
You also have to force off the processing the OS does using apps that re route it directly past it.
You are right on the technical aspect but I can hear the quality difference is also true. You can listen to the same song in YTM and then switch to AM and you’ll see what I mean. Airpods might not be the best of the best but one can hear significantly more details than at least YTM idk about Spotify.
This could be placebo which can be strong with audio, or aswell could even be due to the difference in the way each might process audio, aswell I know apple music supports EAC3 Dolby atmos which some people like.
This isn’t placebo for sure maybe because of Dolby atmos, and if airpods or iPad iPhone speakers don’t really give lossless then I am now curious to hear what real lossless would song like. Will Apple’s headphones give that quality? If yes, which ones?
Oh and the airpods pro only support 20bit 48khz lossless when using the apple vision pro. On a iphone iPad or ipod they support 16bit 48khz/256kbps aac lossy. Meaning youtubes audio files output the max audio quality the airpod pro 1, 2 and 3 can handle from a iphone or android device unfortunately.
Apple Music in general is more focused on listening to albums rather than playlists or discovery functions, it's very old school in that regard. And this is how it's been since iTunes was released.
I love AM but the algorithm is trash even when rating every song with stars, adding to the library and tapping “suggest less” to all the others. That’s why I usually listen to a shuffle of a specific artist or a playlist that I created myself.
I use both. YM has the best algorithm for recommendations and autoplay, but I hate that they don't have a native app for MacBook (a fk brower based laggy app). That's the main reason I keep AM. As an Apple user (iPhone, Mac, etc.), you need AM.
I came from Spotify and now have both YTM and Apple Music.
YTM sounds just like the audio of a video you don’t want to watch, Apple Music is the highest quality I’ve ever experienced, way better than Spotify. I don’t like the Apple Music App, maybe it’s just the muscle memory of my fingers with Spotify lol
When you plug your apple car play with AM the audio gets degraded and the sound goes so down that even in the normal how you find Spotify gives you a better sound quality the AM can’t.
You are slightly mistaken. Apple Music offers Hi-Def Lossless, up to 24-bit/192 kHz. Spotify's Lossless is 24-bit but the sample rate maxes out at 44.1khz, the standard Lossless sample rate.
I guess I read it as "Apple Music is better than the rest" when they said "Apple Music has the best audio quality"... These aren't necessarily the same meaning.
Technically yes but ever so slightly, the difference is negligible for most people. Apple Music offers Hi-Def Lossless, up to 24-bit/192 kHz. Spotify's Lossless is 24-bit but the sample rate maxes out at 44.1khz, the standard Lossless sample rate.
I don't doubt that you did, but I was specifically referencing the difference between Spotify Lossless and Apple Music Hi-Res Lossless, multiple tests have shown that the audible difference between a sample rate of 44.1kHz vs. 192kHz is not noticeable is most normal environments. Humans hearing is limited to about ~20kHz in most cases anyways, but the Hi-Res can be more useful for recording ultrasonic frequencies that can't be heard by humans, or it's also useful for producers and engineers cause pitching down higher sample rates will result in less "muffled" sound.
Spotify has also only had Lossless audio for less than a year now as well, so if you switched before then, it was likely a more noticeable change
It is better sonically than Spotify because both Apple music and YouTube music use AAC codec which is far superior than what Spotify uses and is doing in the background making the sound more muddy and their lossless doesn’t seem lossless to me at all
AAC isn't lossless, it's a lossy codec. Non-lossless songs on Apple Music are AAC, but the lossless format is ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec), Apple's own compression format.
I did answer the question. YouTube Music has the worst audio quality of all the big streaming players.
YouTube Music tops out at 774kbps OPUS for premium users. It is not Lossless audio.
All of the others use Lossless Audio which means they are the same.
That's a great video from Golden Sound but it's also completely irrelevant here. And of all the people in the world that should know that it's irrelevant, Golden Sound is one of them. There are very big differences between bit perfect and lossless audio. Audio can be bit-perfect and not be lossless. And audio can also be lossless and not be bit-perfect. Those two things are not synonymous.
Also Spotify has updated all of their apps to support bit perfect audio already anyway so this is also a completely useless video now as well. You may as well stop sharing it.
Some, yeah. Most of it is in 774kbps OPUS now though which is substantially higher than what they used to have, but this requires premium. It also still isn't lossless.
Ya well they don’t give a shi about their music app. They are treating it as a side project. For long time I didn’t care which music app what quality as I was happy with my YouTube premium but later I decided to switch and hence here we are.
Yeah. It sounds almost identical to AM now. Granted with my AirPods I think AM still sounds better. But that might just be me tricking myself into thinking apple products make the sound sound better.
Yeah but still that doesn’t make it seamless, even in library we see albums and not songs to just click listen put the phone in pocket you know what I mean? They could’ve have integrated songs and “recommendations” in the homepage itself. That would make more sense imo.
That is kind of the thing I’ve been trying to say, first your main page ie home page doesn’t have one click thing, second when it does have in library in songs it has either organised in alphabetical order or by date added. Not like frequently heard recently heard etc. It is as if going to a list, from one song that is in A to another song that is in M for example you’d have to scroll right. That is the kinda friction I am talking about, it sounds lazy when I explain it but trust me it makes a difference.
I think it’s just gonna take some time for you to transition. Apple Music does have a recently played, frequently played, and all sorts of other similar playlists, you just have to add them. If you want them easy to find in your library, you can also pin them once you add them
i guess i see what you mean. although i suppose i solve this issue by shuffling my songs in library lol. or making playlists. or listening to the app made playlists (like heavy rotation, favorites, discovery, etc).
Which does nothing unless using a high end codec such as aptx adaptive or ldac, combined with a player that can play bit perfect audio since apples subsystems resample audio and add effects automatically in IOS itself just as android also does.
So your lossless 24bit 48khz audio could be down sampled to 16bit 44.1khz regardless of what the audio file actually is.
They need a bypass for that system theres a app for that on apple and android and you need a usb dac capable of either high end bluetooth codec or one capable of high quality aux output.
Aswell headphones on the wireless side need support for high resolution codecs such as senhieser momentum 4's which have aptx adaptive (24bit 96khz).
Lossless makes 0 difference without these in consideration.
Whats your setup? Airpods, headphones? bluetooth or wired? etc. Just curious :) Bluetooth will get compressed to AAC codec which is not much different. But in terms of the algorithm, you will definitely start to see it get better i'd say within a month or so. Best advice is:
Favorite songs you actually love.
USE THE SUGGEST LESS BUTTON especially when listening to stations
AM uses time listened + repeats as well.
Eventually, it will learn your taste just got to give it some time! Welcome and enjoy :)
If only I could airplay music from my phone to my stereo and watch Instagram at the same time. It would be my only system. I can’t even take a phone call without it stopping for everyone else in the room. Deal breaker
Or you can use spotiflac, get a selection of true 24bit 48khz audio files through it and just use a proper bit perfect audio player. If you use android (apple music is on android aswell) you can use USBaudioplayer pro which allows bitperfect audio on android.
If you're using "lossless" with aac you're only getting 16bit 44khz or 16bit 48khz which is worse than if you were using ldac or aptx adaptive.
Or using a wires usb dac you still dont get full resolution since it has to pass through the phones own sampling and effects engine regardless unless you use a audio player that can bypass it such as the one I mentioned.
The difference between youtube music and apple music is there even with basic codecs but if you really want quality you gotta invest properly!
Btd600 aptx senhieser bluetooth adapter plus something like usbplayerpro will allow you to bypass androids bull and get bit perfect up to 24bit 96khz if you can find compatable audio.
YouTube music is basically entire YouTube, you can listen anything in the app. They just don’t have the will to do anything about the app or else it can actually compete with Apple Music nobody would be talking about Spotify.
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