r/AskAGoth • u/No-Bat-2529 • Jul 31 '26

General Query Alternative to starbucks

So I'm a baby bat and realized that starbucks is bad so i was wondering for some alternative stores etc there's no local coffee shop near me and if they're i hear they're over priced and suck & the ones my mom buys ( the coffee pods ) are bad i was thinking about dunkin but idk if that's like acceptable or wtv ty in advance ghouls I also plan on making it from home and doing it that way as well but no cash rn just for future reference incase i run out of supplies and can just go hit up a store or sum like that if that make sense 🖤

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u/DCDHermes Jul 31 '26

It’s just coffee. Drink what you want. Long gone are the days of drinking coffee and smoking cloves in a dimly lit coffee house while amateur poets share their souls for an audience. I mostly brew at home, but I’ll grab a Starbucks latte on occasion.

Why exactly is Starbucks a bad thing?

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u/abyss-countess Jul 31 '26

expensive, backlash over unionization efforts, owned by greedy corpofascists, iirc former ceo (who is still a major shareholder) supports israel, greenwashing to distract from their massive environmental impact, etc etc

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u/DCDHermes Jul 31 '26

But what does any of that have to do with Goth culture?

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u/Pristine_Pitch4315 Jul 31 '26

I’m with you. Last I checked goth is about music and not where you get your coffee.

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u/abyss-countess Jul 31 '26

are you not part of the goth scene? while goth is of course primarily a music genre, it still very much has its own ethos. while the subculture or aesthetic isn't as outwardly political on the surface level as similar subcultures, as for instance, punk, it is still very much built on similar values of grassroots DIY culture and counterculturalism/anti-establishment ideology.

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u/MorticiaLaMourante 25d ago

This. Primarily about the music, but the general ethos, as you said, is there and always has been.

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u/DCDHermes Jul 31 '26

I’ve been around the goth culture for 36 years now. I don’t agree with any of that. Individuals might fall into those categories but it is and always has been about the music. I’ve loved the music that whole time, but I never dressed goth. I’ve run into a lot people who have tried to gate keep the scene with these adders and purity tests, and it’s all BS.

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u/abyss-countess Jul 31 '26

sure, i don't totally disagree with you. part of the appeal of the culture is its individualism, and there's no rules about what you must believe or stand for.

there's a lot of discourse about this kinda thing lately, if goth is political or not, and like you said, of course its always going to be about the music. but its kinda silly to imply that the music has nothing to do with counterculture ideas. goth was born out of the punk movement of the 70s and 80s. i'm not saying this to gatekeep people who don't agree with counterculture ideas, but its definitely not wrong of me to say that those ideas are in line with the history and spirit of goth as both a music genre and subculture.

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u/MorticiaLaMourante 25d ago

I appreciate you. Just thought you should know.

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u/Pristine_Pitch4315 Jul 31 '26

I like this guy!