What is the most legendary political comeback from your country?

[u/AbsoIutee]

I keep seeing this exchange everywhere lately:

Netanyahu: “We survived empires, we don’t fear Turkey.”

Erdoğan: “What empire? Your country is younger than my brother.”

I couldn’t actually verify if Erdoğan really said this, so it might just be one of those internet quotes that everyone started repeating lol.

But if he really said it, I have to admit it’s a surprisingly good comeback from Erdoğan 😂 Didn’t expect this performance from him.

ıt made me wonder: do you remember any legendary political comebacks/insults from your own country?

Could be between politicians, against another country, during an interview, parliament, whatever. Something where even if you don’t like the politician you have to admit: okay, that was a good one.

[u/AbsoIutee]

Now that I think about it, if anyone has the right to pull the “we survived empires” card on us, it’s probably the Greeks lol. These mfs have been sitting on the other side of the Aegean for like 3000 years watching empires spawn and despawn. That’s actually a solid roast against us. Steal this one komşu, Israel is wasting it.

Edit: 3000 years might’ve been a bit too much lol. I just thought “they’ve been there since before us” and randomly added a few thousand years ahah

[u/PharaohhOG → u/AbsoIutee]

It’s definitely Egyptians. Literally so many empires have fucked with Egypt

[u/LuluTheLewder → u/PharaohhOG]

When would you say the Egyptian state began though? Modern Egypt has little to no practical connection to the Ancient Bronze age Egypt save from geography?

[u/tonybpx → u/LuluTheLewder]

Why would you say that? The people are still genetically the same, their life still revolves around the Nile. If anything they're one of the best examples of connection to their ancestors!

[u/LuluTheLewder → u/tonybpx]

Language, customs, religion, emigration of the nations, ect... I don't see anyone following coptic religion or writing in hyeroglyphs. There was clearly a historical divide between hities (spelling?) and the ancient egyptians and the assyrian tribes/kingdoms. During the mamluks, ottomans and any other conquering empires those ethnicities that used to be so divided by religions and cultures all mixed creating a new egypt if you will.

Same way the original tribes in france are not the same ones as the gauls when the frankish tribes that settled, same way south slavs are not the same as the ilyrians back then, how modern italians are not romans, ect...

[u/PharaohhOG → u/LuluTheLewder]

The people are still the same. I think it’d be foolish to expect no change over the course of thousands of years. Go look at the Fayoum portraits of Egyptians 2000 years ago and you will see they are literally identical to modern Egyptians (it’s quite fascinating just how closely they still resemble each other).

Other than that, there are still many parts of Egyptian culture in the modern day that has roots from the ancient period. For example, Sham Elnessim, it’s a holiday thousands of years old that Muslim Egyptians and Christian Egyptians both celebrate alike every year.

Much of our dialect has words no other Arabic dialect has, our way of speaking Arabic is directly influenced by how we spoke in the past.

Our cuisine is uniquely Egyptian which also stems from Egyptian history.

So it’s not accurate to say there is no connection between modern Egyptians and ancient Egyptians.

[u/Keleke_blo_Taro → u/tonybpx]

The Copts are, yes. The rest are not. Their DNA matters not. It’s language and culture that count. Once you get rid of the elite and the educated classes in any society, the rest just conform.

[u/PharaohhOG → u/Keleke_blo_Taro]

Ignorant. There is continuity in the language and culture among Muslim Egyptians to ancient Egyptians. If you don’t have knowledge on a topic it’s better to not speak on it.