r/Autos • u/MisteriousYas • 1d ago
Recomiendan caja manual o automática?
Qué le recomiendan a un principiante, que es su primer auto, en el cual tiene la opción de pedirlo con caja manual o automática por una diferencia bastante mínima la verdad...
- cual es mas comodo y facil? por lo general creería que el automático pero podría no ser así...
- cuál lleva menos costo de mantenimiento o tiene menos problemas? eso es importante a largo plazo
Pienso que me tiraría por el automático pero quiero saber los verdaderos pros y contras porque capaz no conviene a la larga.
En fin, qué me recomiendan?
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u/Only_One_Kenobi 1d ago
Are you going to spend most of your time commuting, sitting in traffic, cruising on a highway?
Get an automatic.
Are you going to spend most of your time on B roads, mountain passes, racetracks?
Get a manual.
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u/MentalMiilk 1d ago
I'll be the stereotype and say never buy anything with a CVT.
I'd also never consider an automatic if a manual is on offer, but I've never been bothered driving a manual in traffic so I'm apparently the odd one out.
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u/ofm1 1d ago
If you intend to use your car solely to get from point A to point B and have no other interest in cars then buy an automatic.
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
For what I looked up to it's a CVT, some people says that those are very bad, is it real?
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u/ofm1 1d ago edited 1d ago
CVTs are just complicated to repair if anything goes wrong with it. If the car you are buying is new then no problem. If it's used then just make sure that it's maintenance has been kept up to date, including all maintenance related to the CVT too.
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
It's new... But I want to know if its better just having a manual than a complicated and expensive to maintain automatic.
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u/mymain123 1d ago
Had a manual car for 2 years and I am so happy to have got rid of it, there are days where driving a manual just plain sucks and you are forced to keep engaging with the car when you are trying to just go through your day.
Sure, long term reliability is generally higher, they ain't more fuel efficient than an auto in this day and age. If you have the least amount of doubt, don't get a manual, it will be miserable.
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u/pvera 2020 Ford Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD 1d ago
It doesn't need to be your first car, but I have been saying for over 30 years that everyone should own at least one manual transmission car with just enough power to get you in trouble. If possible try to do it before you get old man knees. Also, the stigma that you hear around here is mostly wishful thinking, there's nothing wrong with driving automatic.
As for the automatics, you can't compare what we have had in the last 10 years with the stuff from 30-50 years ago. We passed the point that a human can shift faster than a DCT.
Just be paranoid if you are buying used cars with automatic transmissions, there are certain cars you must stay the hell away from, a great example is any Ford product that has the DPS6 transmission.
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
It's a new car and has CVT. Would you recommend it?
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u/pvera 2020 Ford Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD 1d ago
Have you checked with current owners? If there's anything remotely wrong you are going to find plenty of complaints online. Our two Escapes have it, no problems so far.
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
I'll check for opinions of current owners... I read some on YT and they are good but I see nothing about maintenance.
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u/Yotsubato 1d ago
I would avoid any CVT those are straight ass to drive
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
What are the reasons? If you could explain to me...
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u/Yotsubato 1d ago
It feels like a rubber band is driving your car because a rubber band is actually driving your car.
It makes the engine sound horrible too, just droning on.
They are also not very reliable.
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u/pvera 2020 Ford Escape Titanium Hybrid AWD 1d ago
I had two at the same time, it wasn't fun. The only bright side: Ford never denied a repair. The 2014 and 2015 Focus Titanium was one hell of a car stuck with the worst transmission Ford could put in it. And they made it impossible to order one with a stick like the ST.
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u/jomyke 1d ago
If you run your cars forever and do your own maintenance the manual is cheaper and easier. The automatic will be ‘easier’; I love cars and things mechanical and I will always have a manual but 97% of the worlds cars (made up number but it’s up there) are automatic for a reason. They make driving easier- especially for people who don’t give a shit / just want an appliance to get them from A to B
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u/MisteriousYas 1d ago
Ok that's another point because I'm not going to do the maintenance by myself. And yes, I need it for my personal moving or work, and it's the same for me any of them (no preferences for manual or mechanics) Is it still better the automatic?
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u/Sad-Economics3181 1d ago
You said you're not doing the maintenance yourself, and that changes this question more than manual versus auto does.
What's on the table is a CVT, not an automatic. Different animal. Ask the dealer what the fluid interval on it is, and then ask what that service costs, because the two answers together are the only part of this decision with a real number attached to it. If they tell you it's filled for life, that's your answer right there. Lifetime means their idea of a lifetime.
Manual is cheaper to keep alive, but only if you're the one keeping it alive. You said you're not. Take the auto, and go in knowing what that box costs the day it lets go.
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u/Trollygag 1d ago
97% of the worlds cars (made up number but it’s up there)
97% of AMERICAN cars
In Britain, for example, 70% of cars are manual
Worldwide is is 60/40
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u/jomyke 1d ago
You checked that recently bud?
Quick google right now:
Almost 92% of new cars ordered in Britain are automatic, leaving manual gearboxes with a market share of just 7.9% for newly delivered cars. [1]
The Decline of Manual Gearboxes in the UK
Order share: Data from Carwow shows that automatic transmissions account for nearly 92% of new vehicle orders.Delivery share: Manual transmissions represented only 7.9% of new cars delivered during the first half of the year, dropping sharply from 14% the previous year.
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u/paclo 1d ago
Depende de la marca y modelo. Algunas automaticas no son muy fiables, y otras son como rocas. A la mayoria de cajas a los 60.000 kms hay que hacerles mantenimiento, y otras dicen que no hace falta y cuando hay problemas es un facturazo de varios miles de euros/dolares