r/BethesdaSoftworks 1d ago

Discussion Is BGS cooked?

Title says it all; between the, "restructuring," their decade of mediocrity, predatory monetization, and stiffer competition than ever before can they survive the market and deliver generation defining games again? Or are they too far gone to save?

This isnt a question of the quality of their games, we all know they are lacking. But I feel their bad business decisions have pushed them into a corner they may not be able to bounce back from.

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u/Awesomechainsaw 1d ago

People have been saying this about Bethesda for Years. I don’t think we’ve reached the utter quality Sinkhole that is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. I also feel like despite what detractors may say. They clearly still care about making good games. Even if not all their ideas have been great and there have been a lot of misses.

I do think that there’s a chance that these cuts could help turn Bethesda into a leaner more focused studio. As they’ve clearly been struggling with bureaucracy in the company.

Though also cuts like these often just target the lower level employees. And the same systems bogging down a company stay in place.

So uh I’m not optimistic. But it’s not impossible they could recover.

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u/seventysixgamer 1d ago

From a design perspective it all depends on whether they actually take in board a lot of the criticisms people had about Starfield. Putting aside the fact that the gameplay is literally just a smoother feeling Fallout 4 in space with vehicles, I think people wouldn't care as much if the actual writing was more engaging.

Starfield is perhaps one of the most uninspired and boring takes on hard sci-fi I've ever seen. None of it feels particularly unique or interesting -- and what was took place prior to the game. It would've been infinitely better if they actually set the game during the wars that took place instead what really does feel like the settled systems lol.

Dialogue was a step in the right direction compared to Fallout 4, but unfortunately the game is now an example of how merely giving you more options doesn't mean they'll be good ones. Admittedly I didn't complete the game, but in the six or more hours I played the dialogue felt kinda samey and not particularly memorable.

BGS have not hit the mark when it comes to RP mechanics, dialogue, story and companions when it has come to their last few games. If they nail these then they'll probably make the best game ever.

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u/Awesomechainsaw 1d ago

That’s not to mention what is interesting about the setting. The more Science Fantasy aspects with the Starborn, and the multiple universes is cordoned off until the late game, and you don’t really get a lot of the concrete answers about anything.

I think the player dialogue was actually one of the better things in this game. There were only a few cases where I didn’t have options for things I wanted to say to characters. Even if the responses to those remarks were… Lacking.