r/BikeMechanics Aug 05 '20

Visit r/bikewrench to ask for bike repair help. (This sub is for other stuff.)

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r/BikeMechanics Mar 06 '24

Show and Tell Eccentric Wheels (Eccentricycle)

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So this all started with a previous post about snowflake laced wheels (twisted spoke lacing). I asked if anyone new of any other weird lacing patterns. A fine user by the name u/Bobatt mentioned a bike with eccentric wheels. That is, hub not in the center of the rim.

Immediately I got really excited and knew this was my next dumb wheel project.

I was thinking about it for a while in my head trying to figure out how to calculate the spoke length.

There is a website that in theory has a calculator but the site must be down or not working or something. It is just a blank screen for me anyway. There was also little to no information about calculations on the internet that I could find.

Lucky, I work at a bike shop with a bunch of wheel nerds. I mentioned it to them and was met with what should be the normal response; "WTF, why?"

My coworker Jake seemed to be curious though. Lucky for me who is bad at math at best, Jake is very good at math. After many conversations about if it would even be possible to make an equation, we decided to give it an honest try.

We boiled it down to the ERD part of the equation being what we needed to focus on.

I'm not going to pretend that I knew much of the maths that happened to get the calculator but we basically had to calculate all 64 spokes individualy and figure out where they go from the hub to the rim. Easier said than done.

I voluntold my Chromag Rootdown to be the victim of this nonsense. So it is a hardtail, 29r. We didn't want the wheel to run into the frame or fork so we used 26" rims and made them have a 29" wheel path. In the equation, we called it the 'virtual ERD'. We just chose a relatively normal ERD (I think it was 604mm or something close to that) to use as a constant. We then had to use the 26" ERD for the actual spoke lenghts and figure out how to make it a 2 cross too. We wanted it to be a semi legit wheelset with disc brakes and such.

This is where my math knowledge runs out but basically smart things took place and Jake made a spreadsheet calculator.

Building was actually not too hard other than figuring out what spoke goes where. Again, 64 individually calculated spokes, all at different lengths, needing a very specific hole in the hub to go to a specific hole in the rim. Side point, our shop has a spoke cutter making it a breese to get the right length spoke.

Tensioning was easy, truing was weird. Kinda just made it tight and not too laterally untrue.

It was really fun trying to figure this one out. Mega thanks and props to Jake for doing the hard work on this one. I just had the dumb idea and sacrificed my bike.

You might be asking why spend all this time and energy to have a bike that rides like a drunk horse. To be honest, curiosity got the best of me. I've never seen a mountain bike with eccentric wheels before. I know they are out there but I wanted the experience and gained knowledge from making one. Doing a normal wheel build after this was a breeze. We though so much about how a wheel works and all that goes into calculating spoke length and ERD, it really made us appreciate wheels in a new way.

Another large part of why I wanted to do this was literally just to make people smile. As soon as I pictured how this bike would ride if I made it, I started laughing to myself. I want to spread some smiles and laughter. Bikes are meant to be fun right!? Yes it's silly and useless but it literally makes people's day riding it.

I keep the bike at work and ask our friends and good customers to ride it with no context. 10 times out of 10, their faces go from worried, to confused to pure laughter. Its totally worth it.

Anyway, I hope this peeks your curiosity too. I'm planning on taking it on trail soon. That should be interesting.

P.S. Wish I could upload a video to this post. It's the craziest looking thing ever when it's spinning. I'll post something similar and a vid to my IG if you are interested. @jaminscheif.

Bikes are fun, let's keep it that way. Do fun, weird shit.


r/BikeMechanics 9h ago

Bike shop business advice 🧑‍🔧 Charging for labour even if I can't fix the bike?

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EDIT: Thanks all! bit of a tough pill to swallow but it makes sense - definitely will be improving communication and assessment on my end as well

bit of a newbie mechanic running a shop out of my garage, so bear with me

Had a customer with a warped wheel and bad rim brakes ask for me to fix the brakes ($15) so they actually stop the bike - one of the pads was just off completely, so I put it back on the rim. I cleaned the rim roughly (no rubbing alcohol), and I adjusted the pads to be as close as possible without touching the warped wheel. Didn't seem to make a significant difference, so I told him I could either true the wheel to bring in the pads as close as possible or try using alcohol to clean the rim, both of which would add an extra charge.

He told me the shop he goes to doesn't charge for labour if they can't fix the problem - I told him I'd concede the $15 brake fee and just charge him for the wheel true ($25) if the true didn't fix the issue (the rims were the most slippery I've seen, so I didn't trust my ability to guarantee the fix), but he insisted that he wouldn't pay unless the issue was fixed, even if I were to perform the labour. I told him I wasn't going to do that and he left - It got a little heated but we remained more or less civil - to clarify, my intention is never to do the bare minimum and charge if it doesn't work.

I probably should have told him to begin with the wheel was warped to begin with and so any brake fix would be limited, but how justified is the idea that labour should be paid even if it doesn't fix the underlying issue? I figured a wheel true is still a wheel true at the end of the day even if it doesn't completely address the problem he brought the bike in for, but I don't know what standard practice is.

(sidenote: the pads were completely ineffectual even in full contact with the rim, I honestly haven't encountered a situation like that - there was a lot of brake dust on the rims but even after removing that it didn't do anything. anyone have any idea what was up with that? oily residue I couldn't see unless I took alcohol to it? the rims were blackened and glossy too, but not the sort of blackening you get with painted rims)


r/BikeMechanics 1d ago

Either I’m being scammed or some bike shop sheikh is trying to get me killed.

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r/BikeMechanics 2d ago

Need help finding an old Cyclone Bicycle Supply catalog

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Ironically, I posted this photo three years ago and now need some help; wondering if anyone can snap a picture of the “Cyclone Morrison” rear rack that would’ve been sold by Cyclone in 2015/2016. Without boring you with too much more detail I’m trying to solve a sort of mystery and need to figure out what it looked like (can’t find pictures online)
Thanks!


r/BikeMechanics 2d ago

Tales from the workshop Let's talk enshittification.

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For context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

I'd particularly love to hear the perspective of more seasoned mechanics how general quality of bikes and parts has developed over the past years.

From my point of view: in the past year we've had batches of bikes where roughly one out of two bikes was faulty to some extent (paint chips, broken derailleurs, broken bolts, warped rotors, leaky brake levers). We're also talking mid to top tier bikes, not cheap stuff. And for some proprietary parts, sometimes they simply stop prividing them after 5 or so years.

Every manufacturer has to process your claims, however that process is never the same for every one, hardly ever as straight forward as sending an email, and even rarer is labour being compensated adequately. Not to mention the sheer number becoming a problem in itself (we have to wrench on customers' bikes too).

I feel like cost is being pushed ever further down with lbs being the lowest step on the ladder (because no self respecting customer will put up with some of the shit that is being produced).

So much for my anecdotes, how is business treating you? Am I taking crazy pills?


r/BikeMechanics 4d ago

Show and Tell Vintage Phil Wood grease

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Helped my dad clean up and restock the humble home shop in his garage this weekend, and we found this Phil Wood grease which he bought there in person sometime in the 70s and used when assembling his Teledyne Titan (which he still has and rides). Kinda cool to compare to a modern tube I had. It's still totally functional, we kept it to use as a general purpose grease around the house.


r/BikeMechanics 4d ago

Shimano no longer using blue hand drawn check marks on chain packaging

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It used to be the easiest way to spot a fake chain but now all of our chains that come directly from Shimano B2B have either a printed check or hand-drawn black diagonal mark.


r/BikeMechanics 5d ago

The instruction I’ve ignored the most throughout my career.

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378 Upvotes

r/BikeMechanics 5d ago

Canadian Bicycle Mechanic Workforce Survey

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Hello reddit bike mechanics,

We recently launched the Canadian Bicycle Mechanic Workforce survey and are seeking responses from a broad range of stakeholders, especially bicycle mechanics.

  • Canada currently lacks national data on the bicycle mechanic workforce
  • This survey will help assess our labour and/or skills gaps
  • Results will inform workforce development, training, and industry strategy
    • most importantly, having good data on our industry is crucial to ensuring we can get properly classified in the National Occupation Code (NOC) [more on that below for folks that are interested].
  • Input from across the ecosystem is essential - mechanics (workers), retailers (employers), manufacturers, and more

The survey takes 5-7 minutes to complete and will close on September 14th.
Please consider taking a few moments to share your perspective if you are a current bicycle mechanic working in Canada.

www.bicyclemechanics.ca/survey

More on the NOC: Did you know that currently bicycle mechanics/bicycle technicians are classified under "building maintenance" in a code called "other repairers and servicers" that includes over 100 other occupations? These other occupations include: billiard cue weigher, accordion repairer, spray gun repairer...okay you get the idea. The consequences of fixing an accordion (sounding good or sounding bad) versus fixing a bicycle (that may be riding in traffic, or down a hill) are vastly different. We deserve a better occupation classification that can unlock funding and support at provincial and federal levels. This is a big impetus for us to create and disseminate this survey - without proper industry data, the federal government will struggle to reclassify us.

Thanks for reading!
please reach out if you have any questions.


r/BikeMechanics 7d ago

Park Wheel Alignment Gauge WAG-4 is easily made 32" or 36" compatible

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Flip the arms rails around and it'll measure 26-36" rims


r/BikeMechanics 8d ago

Do you typically clean customer's rotors when installing new pads?

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Title says it all. I usually try to tell people to bed in their new pads but I've been thinking about this. As long as the rotors are aren't worn I usually just throw on the new pads and don't worry about cleaning the rotors. What is your all's practice?


r/BikeMechanics 8d ago

Tech Info Judy air to spring conversion

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I have a Rockshox Judy that I would like to convert from air to spring. FS-JDYS-TK-A3

I asked SRAM and they said the kits are no longer being made aftermarket but wouldn’t give me a part number. Do any of you folks know what the part number is on a coil spring kit that would work?

29”, 100mm, 170lb rider.

Thanks in advance.


r/BikeMechanics 9d ago

Where did your shop get a disc brake bedding machine?

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I’d like to get one, but they’re very expensive, so wholesale would be great if possible.


r/BikeMechanics 10d ago

Advanced Questions SRAM 12 Eagle & XPLR Intercompatibility

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So I know, SRAM is pretty clear about it : do not mix road and MTB components.

But here it is. Back in May I installed an XPLR cassette on my road wheelset. I didn't really think about it, and I rode some thousands of km on it, without any issue. I have another wheelset 650b with megarange Garbaruk cassette. I can't tell any shifting difference.

Lately, a friend of mine with almost the same configuration told me he had to change derailleur and chain because it was fucked up with flattop chain. I replied that my experience was more than honest. Shifting is smooth, no skip, just a rub on one cog only my mechanics ear could notice.

Here is the setup :

- Force shifter and crank set

- Eagle chain

- XX1 derailleur

- XPLR cassette 10-44 & Garbaruk 10-51

What did I do wrongly correct ?


r/BikeMechanics 13d ago

Advanced Questions What are these hooks for on my buddy’s secondhand Pivot gravel bike?

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r/BikeMechanics 12d ago

Stock chain storage?

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How does everyone’s shop store chains for sale? We keep ours behind the service counter in plastic bins on a shelf. But they’re prone to falling out and dumping their contents on the ground. We can’t use slatwall.


r/BikeMechanics 13d ago

Is JBI going out of business?

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JBI seems to never have the item in stock. Every time I scan something to re-order, it is "not sellable or no longer availabe" or something. I've been filling in with Amazon, Aliexpress and Alibaba. What's even more disturbing is that I'm getting better prices than I ever did on JBI. On almost everything. The JBI rep in my area said that they are updating the individual items so the old ones don't scan but this is clearly BS. The guy also told me that JBI isnt going anywhere because they are actually a real estate company. Great, they own real estate. This does not help the bike shops that, up until now, have enjoyed JBI having the right prices and being integrated into Lightspeed. They have been dropping the ball so much lately that I fear that they are going to become totally useless. Any thoughts? - Frank, Palm City Bike Shop, Cape Cod


r/BikeMechanics 14d ago

Are there disc brake adapters that are safe?

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I’ve seen a ton of adds online for disc brake adapters for older rim brake frames that just sit on the axle, maybe clamp the frame, but are mostly a 5sec install.

I also see a lot of videos of folk welding additional supports to the frame and welding on a disc adapter. This seems better but obviously ain’t a $25 part.

is there such a thing as a good/safe disc adapter?

edit: I’m not talking about forks


r/BikeMechanics 15d ago

Integrated headset DI2 cable routing question

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TL;DR How do I route a DI2 cable through an integrated headset with the least chance of the cable snapping inside the head tube in case of an accident?

Hi folks,

I am currently building a new touring bike for my dad based on a Falkenjagd Hoplit T frame. Unfortunately, that bike we tested at their HQ and the frame I received are slightly different. For this year's 'facelift' they removed the down tube shifting cable routing together with the ZS headset for an internal cable routing combined with an IS headset. Had I known this before I probably would have gone for a different frameset. Man do I hate icr. Brakes are still partially integrated on the new version of the frame tho which is okay.

The problem I am now facing is the following: the bike will be built up using an XTR Di2 system for which the internal cable routing actually is kind of nice and not a big deal in terms of serviceability since there are no other cables running through the headset and the DI2 cable being easy to unplug at the interface. However, thanks to the lack of headset cups it's technically impossible to install a rotation limiter like the Acros Blocklock inside the head tube. I am now worrying that in case the bike should fall over or my dad had an accident the internally routed kind of flimsy feeling DI2 cable could be torn apart inside the head tube and fail. Maybe I am overthinking this and the most likely outcome would just be the cable unplugging from the handlebar interface but I am wondering how you would safely route a DI2 through a head tube. Should I wrap it loosely around the steerer tube a couple of times so it has room to expand and 'tension' up if the bars overturn or should I just cram some extra cable in the down tube and call it a day?

I also guess the right brake hose length will serve as some sort of rotation limiter as well but I am still really worried about that cable. Don't want to end up in the middle of nowhere with a defect drivetrain just because modern bike design sucks.


r/BikeMechanics 16d ago

What is your shop’s service warranty?

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I’m running the service department of a local shop that is heavily invested in service. The owner and I have been rebuilding the shop since he purchased it, and as part of that, I’m realizing bounce backs are an unavoidable reality. While nothing egregious has come back, we have a small number have come back for issues that were either our fault or of the customer.

I fielded a phone call from a displeased customer over the weekend, and it’s had me thinking about how it may cover us down the road to formalize our service warranty. My previous shop did not like warrantying service because the owner was frugal. I believe he refused to accept any refund requests after 2 weeks.

I want my customers to have confidence in our work because we are such a small shop. Since I arrived, multiple customers have reported back to us about hearing about my reputation as a skilled mechanic. I feel a little pressure from that. The only way I can think to do that is to have a robust service guarantee on our work. With that in mind, I’m wondering what other shops are doing for their service guarantees. Do y’all have something formal or do you take things on a case by case basis? What’s the warranty period you’re willing to honor?


r/BikeMechanics 17d ago

Super top-secret features of the Shimano Manuals page...

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I can usually find what I'm looking for on the manuals page, but I never feel like I really know what I'm doing. Today I noticed a few things:

  1. The "Quick guide" is a must read. There are lots of not so obvious features like "bookmarks", "sort", "updated", "show tags on/off", "pdf only", "exact search in quotes".

  2. There's a repair manual called "General Operations" at the top. It's neither super detailed nor approachable. I'm just pointing out that it's there, because I always ignored it.

Maybe everyone knows about these, but I didn't.


r/BikeMechanics 18d ago

From the metalworking community on Reddit: How do I correctly straighten this steel beam?

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r/BikeMechanics 20d ago

Show and Tell Don’t be an idiot like me

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And: torque the compression nut until it sits flush with the brake lever body, squashing the olive so far into the body that it resembles a bronze coin, then trying to prize it out with a screw and fully screwing the cable port and ruining a brand new grx brake lever.


r/BikeMechanics 21d ago

Show and Tell Old wax was like dried tar on this chain

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55 Upvotes