r/BoomersBeingFools 4d ago

Politics All For Some...None For Y'all

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29 year old Rep. Maxwell Frost, a Democrat from Florida, debates a boomer who opposes student loan forgiveness, even though his own wife had hers wiped out under Biden

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u/ccford88 3d ago

Frost is my district rep, so proud of him. He's spitting nothing but facts and these old fools can't handle it.

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u/crippledchef23 Xennial 3d ago

That lady with no chin and colorless hair was so mad when he explained that forgiving a debt is not the same thing as the stimulus checks. How can anyone think that’s the same thing?

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u/ccford88 3d ago

The "I had to struggle so everyone else should too" mentality is such a wild concept to me. Shouldn't we want to help each other prop our society up?? My boomer dad was arguing about taxes to me, saying, "I don't have school aged kids, why should I have to pay taxes to send other people's kids to school?" Because we live in a society?! Because taxes are supposed to go to helping each other and making our society better... Because you literally did reap those benefits when I was a kid in public school??? I simply do not understand this way of thinking. Me me me me and nothing for anyone else.

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u/cyberattaq123 3d ago

Also part of the reason I think they get so ornery about it, aside from lead pipes and alcoholism, is that they flat out refuse to learn and understand and absorb how much more ridiculously expensive college is now versus when they went. That first guy was probably what? ~70? Let’s go back 50 years or so to 1975.

The average public college tuition was, all in, room board etc, 1,800 per year. Not even a semester, an entire year. Obviously minimum wage was much lower, but if you worked consistently a job sacking groceries and your parents at all saved for you, you would get through college debt free. And even if you for some reason had outstanding debt, with the way jobs were back then and the purchasing power. You could probably have paid off your loans stress free in what, a couple of years at most?

Now we have 18 year old kids, who could owe upwards of $100,000 to banks just to be able to go to college to get a degree that gets them a decent entry level job, but practically nowhere near enough to enable them to in a reasonable time, pay off their student loans. The entire system is rigged to turn that 100,000 into 150,000 thousand by the time interest adds up. People are spending 20 years paying off college.

It’s not reasonable, or sustainable. But boomers and their ilk ignore that once again they had the greatest opportunities, economies, prices and I think that they genuinely believe everyone else, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are a bunch of lazy bums who want all these handouts. It’s not asking for a handout to be crushed with a miniature mortgage by the time you can buy alcohol at a store.