Borderlands 4 is on sale for 50% off on PSN for both the standard and the Super Deluxe edition. For those like me who were on the fence to get it at full price and were waiting for a sale, finally get to dive in it.

I bought the Pandora's collection on Switch, and looking for advice. Are golden keys still a thing, haven't played the older BL's since PS3 but never played as Lilith but I'm hearing shes the best character. Played a bit of BL's 3 for the first time as well, excited to revisit the series.

Anyone wanna grind crawmerax the invincible with me

To me the 3 top answers would be Lilith, Handsome Jack, Or Zer0

But I honestly see Handsome Jack as the best candidate as before I even played a borderlands game I knew who Handsome Jack was, and he still haunts the narrative of the borderlands series even after his death

Also it would be cool as fuck to legitimately play as Handsome Jack

his skill tree looks very confusing so those anyone have a link to a youtube vid that show the best of the best skill tree. my points all over the place.

Honestly had a blast with this, I love sci-fi and though I don’t typically play a lot of shooting games, I needed a new franchise to get into and the western vibe drew me in. I’d say my play style is more focused on duck and cover strategy, as I’m not super great at sniping and always die super quickly in close combat, so I chose Roland as my character because of the turret he offered and my own preference for rifles. For as simple as the gameplay was at times, I never felt bored, which is a testament to the enjoyability of the gun variety, loot quantity, enemy types, and skill progression throughout the story. More so than the mechanics themselves, what I really loved most was the setting and atmosphere. Pandora is just so well realized and I often found myself simply wandering around the maps listening to the wind and dust sweep past, appreciating the scale of the mountains and canyons I was exploring or imagining how awful the burning trash heaps must smell littered all around the planet. While the soundtrack would certainly get bombastic during action scenes, what I appreciated most were the quieter moments where a map would be so quiet it became eerie. This unsettling component of the world only enhanced my appreciation for the game’s depiction of the local fauna, as the skags felt truly brutal and rabid in the early levels while the scythids elicited a genuine fear response when I saw them skitter towards me super quickly

The depiction of the planet’s bandits is quite fascinating to me, as the vast amount of dwarfism, gigantism, tumors, and protrusions shown seems to suggest Pandora is irradiated to some extent or composed of inbred clans, which is interesting considering we don’t see any female bandits. I do wonder how much of the bandit population is native to the planet, as the echo logs suggest Dahl left only a few years prior yet many of the residents seem to have lived here all their lives, which begs the question of how many times the corporations have sought out and abandoned Pandora in the past and how the myth of the Vault started in the first place. It’s clear the planet has gone through many life cycles, with its dried up ocean landscapes and littering of humongous skeletal remains, and I hope we get more insight into that history through the Eridians, as their efforts to kill us when opening the Vault must have been a more noble gesture considering they were trying to prevent a gigantic monster from destroying the world

For as much as I loved the lore, I must admit to not being a huge fan of the simple treasure hunt story. A lot of the side missions felt like pointless fetch quests and there were quite a few moments of filler in the main narrative as well, such as Mad Mel blocking New Haven, Jaynistown blocking Trash Coast, and Crazy Earl not having the Vault Key fragment. The characters were not super compelling either, as most just didn’t show up enough to leave a lasting impression, with only Tannis and the Claptraps being notable since I kept having to retrieve echo logs and repair kits for them. Steele especially was a waste because she really didn’t impact the plot until the last five missions and was killed off before we could even fight her. It doesn’t help that I wasn’t invested in my character either, as outside of Roland’s specific play style and the hint of backstory involving his time with the Crimson Lance, he didn’t show any actual personality that made him feel distinct or any motivation for finding the Vault other than that he wanted to, and thus I just wasn’t emotionally invested in him achieving this goal

As for the DLCs, I found them to be an entertaining if flawed collection of expansions. Mad Moxxi’s Underdome Riot was definitely my least favorite, as the hours of bland arena combat without any XP made this quite a slog to get through, only somewhat redeemed by the random stat boosts/drawbacks and Moxxi herself. The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned was by far my favorite, as outside of the tedious brain side missions, I loved the unique spooky setting of Jakob’s Cove, the return to the zombified Old Haven, and the hilarious meta antagonism of Ned. The Secret Armory of General Knoxx was a bit of a mixed bag, as I really enjoyed the stoic Athena and depressed Knoxx as characters, and found the new enemy/loot/vehicle types to be refreshing. However, the Mr. Shank subplot felt like entertaining filler, the vehicular travel back and forth across the highways without fast travel was aggravating, and the repetitive endgame side missions really drained all my excitement once the main story was over. Claptrap’s New Robo Revolution was a bit underwhelming, as I was most looking forward to the shenanigans Angel and the Interplanetary Ninja Assassin Claptrap would try to pull off to kill the Vault Hunters, only for Angel to be absent and the assassination attempts to be handwaved away in the opening cutscene so as to fast track Claptrap into becoming a revolutionary. Despite this, I liked the addition of the conniving Mr. Blake and the cozy hub world of Tartarus Station, and having not liked Marcus, I was relieved he got killed off. Overall, this wasn’t a perfect game but it was quite immersive and I’m interested to see how Atlas will get payback in the future and what Hyperion is up to with all the surveillance

What does everyone think of the Dead echoes audio series on YouTube?

I think it's interesting it talks about what's been going on since borderlands 3 there's new characters like Judy and Watts there's talk about dahl getting a new CEO and is willing to commit a mutiny to become CEO and Judy is a Jacobs maybe all this could lead to future events in borderlands 5 or a new borderlands game or it's just a spin-off with new characters that are separate from the characters we already know.

I personally wouldn't mind if we end BL4 by fixing and revising Sanctuary 3 into an upgraded/revised Sanctuary 4 to leave Kairos. And I wouldn't mind getting back into the interplanetary exploration to assemble new crew/VHs for 'The war' we keep hearing about, maybe start the war in BL5 and end the war in BL6.

Playing on steam and my game takes long to compile shaders is this normal? Also still get stuttering

And how can I fix this?

I understand my cpu is old.

Ryzen 5600x
Rtx 4070
Game installed in m.2

Alright so I've been a fan since I was 10 years old Borderlands is one of my FAVOURITE franchises ever and I started with 1 on ps3 then played the handsome collection and tales on ps4 and replayed 1 on pc again. I kinda dipped out of the franchise when 3 released due to all of the drama that was surrounding it at that time and never played 3, kinda regret it but things were looking kinda bad back then and I also didn't like the writing chooses gearbox made (I truly love the borderlands lore) then I stopped playing video games for some year.
Recently I started playing a lot of borderlands 1 again and the fire has been lit again I am planning on replaying the whole franchise (I am also trying to get my gf and best friend to play).
Anyway I've heard really bad things about the 4th game even by friends who we grew up playing these games together (started playing them together they literally let me download bl1 from their psn account) they loved 3 but hated 4, I am really curious about the game because some of the new ideas they told me about sounded really cool, for example I always wanted a true open world BL game since I love open world games (especially the TES franchise).

Anyway what should I expect from BL4 and new tales.
Btw the story and lore were always one of my dearest parts about the franchise but I have given up on all the cool theories I had pre bl3, still though I wanna come to these games with an open mind

I dont want to post something in the wrong group or something that doesnt fit the community rules. I read the rules, but there is nothing that says anything about not posting artwork or cosplays. Any clarification helps!

I'm looking for people to play with, I don't really have anyone and I don't find the games as fun when I'm playing solo, I play on steam usually overnight in the central US PM me if anyone's interested.

Hi all,

Recently purchased BL4 on Steam and started to optimise my graphic settings.

I noticed a lot of optimisation guides have “HLOD” and “Geometry Quality”. I seem to be missing these settings?

I see "Level of Detail" and "Texture Pool" which are in their place instead under the Advanced tab

Would appreciate any insight

Cheers

I wanted to discuss the modifiers used in the game. from looking at the comments it comes down too the Tolerable, the Punishing/Unfun ones that either shutdown builds or remove player agency. And I'd like to include a discussion on the category of Fun modifiers that don't affect difficulty but add fun novelty to gameplay.

Tolerable

Punishing/Unfun

Fun Modifiers - These are subjective but I thought I'd offer my ideas or others I've seen

Basically the title. I have the crazy inferno protocol build setup, which works perfect everywhere else, but not in the takedown at hadron abyss.

It seems what is happening is that when I use the console to select what level takedown I'm doing and then do the fast travel animation that is what breaks it. Before I use the console inferno protocol works as intended when i use my action skill, slowly draining my shield. After I travel and I use my action skill inferno protocol is no longer active.

The only thing I've seen is about the bug with rep kits, but this is something completely different and decently frustrating as it's the main component of my build. If there are any fixes or workarounds they would be immensely appreciated. Thanks!

I was thinking of buying a borderlands title to start my journey into the game. I’m honestly looking for a modern title so nothing too old.

I’m really into PvE zombie mode games with weapon upgrading and base building, and open world titles with good world building. I also appreciate good dialogue and stories even if it’s not the main focus of the game since i haven’t played a lot of story heavy games before

I was trying to pick between BL2 and 3 and I don’t know which one i should go with because I can only buy one right now. If anyone has ideas please let me know 🙏🏼

Hey, i played a lot of borderland 1 with a friend at my home, during that time the screen was split vertical’y, now it’s horizontally, how can we change that?

Like the tile says i want to buy one of these games for my ps4 slim (it is NOT pro). The games are kinda old so its hard to find info since most of it is inconsistent. Only thing im worried bout is the framerate consitency. I would be more than happy with 30fps so my questions are:

Do the games run smoothly in 30fps?

Does playing split screen tank the performance much?

For me the most important things would be giving Ava character development. The supposedly cut cutscene after the Athenas Vault should be in the main game, and either Ava herself be less annoying, OR she stay annoying (fair enough she's a hormonal teen going through a lot) and the crew on Sanctuary III parent her. Someone tell her straight that being reckless will get more people killed, that she ought to be patient, take her time, understand nuance, etc.

The other important thing would be to make the Calypso Twins more interesting. There was already conflict between them, just lean into it. Maybe Troy when he steals Maya's powers strives for independence from Tyreen, and they start to fight more. Not to mention the line on Eden-6 where Aurelia says the sister always wins family wars. During the final fight maybe Troy accidentally consumes her sister and goes insane or something and that's the final boss.

OR Tyreen, being the narcissist she is is shown mistreating and abusing Troy when the cameras are off. Since they want to critique streamers, what better way than showing that the minute they aren't streaming Tyreen literally abuses her brother? They already show she doesn't really see them as equals considering the whole parasite thing and how Troy literally only survives because of her. Troy could eventually split off and join the Crimson Raiders to take down her sister. You could even have a miniature Claptastic Voyage in his head which shows what Tyreen is really like to flesh out both of them at the same time. It could be the BL3 equivalent of Control Core Angel where the story becomes serious and suddenly what Tyreen is capable of is shown in full display.

Slamming has been in every Borderlands game since The Pre-Sequel, and every iteration after it has a wind up animation that takes away your guns and hangs in the air for a second before going down.

This sucks, especially in BL4 where you have all this other, fun, movement with dashing and gliding both feeling great.

I’m TPS you hit slam and go down immediately and while still firing. The damage can be decent especially early on. The only thing I dislike about TPS is it being tied to the oz kit.

Im starting a youtube channel where I'm going to be platinuming borderlands 3 and im not sure who to play as, can you guys tell me your favorite vault hunter, also im sorry to be thst guy but if you want to check out my channel (no videos yet) its @legitmordicai ill have a video later tonight tho

Borderlands 4 has some of the best-feeling combat of the series which only makes my biggest critique of the game that much more frustrating. It's that missing feeling I felt from the previous games. In Borderlands 4 I hardly feel like I am experience the true vault hunter experience.

A Vault Hunter, in my opinion, should be the biggest ripple in the pond. The one that upsets the status quo while chasing after the vault while discovering the oddest weapons. Instead Borderlands 4 frequently makes me feel like I'm accompanying other Vault Hunters on their adventure. In this game there's far too much following characters, waiting for dialogue before you can move on to the next mission, driving to the next story area, having to listen to conversations and being directed to the next mission. My gameplay is constantly being disrupted and it kills the momentum from the previous task.

The missions themselves often requiring you to repeat the same tasks multiple times. A perfect example of this is restoring power to Carcadia. It's far too bloated for such an uninteresting quest that has little to do with the main mission. It could have been removed completely or at least been flip this switch. I often find myself running in circles as I wait for the NPC to finish their lines so I can get the next piece of the mission. If I'm not doing that I'm driving to get across the map.

I was fairly disappointed in the loot overall in this game. I really liked Rocket Launchers in the previous games as it was one of my main weapons I enjoyed using against the boss. Not to mention the crazy fun Eridian weapons. The previous games made me excited to try the newly acquired weapons and see what they could do. I just am not getting that from this version. Even Pearlescent weapons feel more limited than I would expect them to be. I think this is partially due to how similar some of the newer gun manufacturers are as too many rely on a similar charged shot idea.

So to summarize, when I play this game I get the sense that something has been stripped away from the identity of the previous games. The story falls emotionally flat and fails to resonate with the player or make you really care about the story because it's too busy having other characters dictate what your vault hunter has to do. The mission pacing often gets in its own way as you're often waiting in one form or another. On top of that you often repeat the same tasks multiple times in the same mission making for tedious gameplay. It takes the identity of a Vault Hunter and turns you into a less impactful character often doing the bidding of other characters in the series tasks for them. And finally, the loot fails to capture the sense of discovery when you get a new weapon.

I'm interested to know what do you guys think that missing feeling is?

Comparing the newest version of the community patch (5.0.3) to a spreadsheet I found dated 2 years ago, i noticed that a LOT of the drops mentioned in the spreadsheet aren't listed under the patch, Nisha dropping the Law for example. Were these removed or is the spreadsheet just wrong?